[PATCH] D41723: Introduce the "retpoline" x86 mitigation technique for variant #2 of the speculative execution vulnerabilities disclosed today, specifically identified by CVE-2017-5715, "Branch Target Injection", and is one of the two halves to Spectre..

James Y Knight via Phabricator via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Thu Jan 4 12:08:28 PST 2018


jyknight added a comment.

In https://reviews.llvm.org/D41723#967554, @chandlerc wrote:

> > That should be easy to support -- just don't do the thunk-emission -- but it does then mean the need to standardize on the names and semantics of the required thunks.
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> I don't think this is true. We need to document LLVM's semantics and the thunks required. If they match GCCs, cool. If not and a user provides a flag to request an external thunk, then they have to give LLVM one that matches LLVM's semantics. Since they control the name, they can even have thunks with each compiler's semantics and different names. While in practice, I expect the semantics to match, I don't think we should be in the business of forcing this into the ABI. We already have waaaay to much in the ABI. If we come up with a better way to do retpoline in the future, we should rapidly switch to that without needing to coordinate about names and semantics across compilers.


Right, I shouldn't have said "standardize", I did actually mean "document".

>> And it would be good if the same function-names were used as GCC. Fine to do as a followup patch, but maybe at least have an idea what the command-line UI will be for it.
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> I strongly disagree here. Again, this should *not* be part of the ABI and it should not be something that we have to engineer to match exactly with other compilers.

No, I agree with you, it does not _need_ to match. However, if the semantics are the same as GCC's thunks (which they do appear to be), it would be _good_ to coordinate with eachother, simply in order to make users' lives easier. Which is the same reason to coordinate the command-line UI. Neither are required, but both would be good.

> We should even be free to add `__llvm_retpoline2_foo()` thunks in the future with new semantics with zero compatibility concerns.

It wouldn't have _zero_ concerns due to externally-provided thunks -- they'll need to provide new ones to use the new compiler version. But probably that's okay.


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