[PATCH] D13741: Introduce a *draft* of a code of conduct for the LLVM community and theassociated reporting guide.

Chandler Carruth via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Tue May 10 09:41:59 PDT 2016


chandlerc added inline comments.

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Comment at: docs/CodeOfConduct.rst:44
@@ +43,3 @@
+  making decisions. Remember that we're a world-wide community, so you might
+  not be communicating in someone else's primary language.
+
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rengolin wrote:
> probinson wrote:
> > Heh.  Or your own primary language.  Also native speakers aren't necessarily perfect either. How about:
> > "Remember that we're a world-wide community, and while English is the lingua-franca of computer science, not everyone is fluent."
> > 
> Good point. +1.
I agree about this concept, but I'm not sure it fits here. This is about being considerate to others and there I think considering the fact that they may not be operating in their primary language is the most relevant.

We could try to work this into one of the other sections, but I'm not sure it is strictly necessary, as I think *all* of this is pretty clearly reflexive -- everything about "you" and "others" here applies in reverse equally often?

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Comment at: docs/CodeOfConduct.rst:66
@@ +65,3 @@
+  * Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior.
+  * Repeated harassment of others. In general, if someone asks you to stop,
+    then stop.
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rengolin wrote:
> joker.eph wrote:
> > Can you remove the word "Repeated" please?
> > Harassment is by definition *repeated* as far as I know, unless it is a US vs non-US thing?
> > A quick google search tends to comfort me in my view that other CoC I looked at are twisting the word by removing this (important IMO) component:
> > 
> > http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Harassment : "any form of **repeated** behaviour intended to intimidate a person or make them feel unwelcome or uncomfortable" and "**repeated** interactions with a person after they have made it clear that further interaction is unwelcome"
> > http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/harassment  : the act of **systematic and/or continued** unwanted and annoying actions
> > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harass "to annoy or bother (someone) in a **constant or repeated** way" and  "to make *repeated* attacks against (an enemy)"
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment  "It is commonly understood as behaviour which disturbs or upsets, and it is **characteristically repetitive**" and " Sexual harassment refers to **persistent** and unwanted sexual advances"
> > 
> > Not having this characteristic implies that a one-time behavior that offend someone is considered as harassment, which I disagree with.
> > 
> > May I suggest an edition along these lines:
> > 
> > ```
> > **Be careful in the words that you choose and be kind to others.** Do not
> >   insult or put down other participants. Exclusionary behavior aren't 
> >   acceptable. This includes, but is not limited to:
> > 
> >   * Violent threats or language directed against another person.
> >   * Discriminatory jokes and language.
> >   * Posting sexually explicit or violent material.
> >   * Posting (or threatening to post) other people's personally identifying
> >     information ("doxing").
> >   * Personal insults, especially those using racist or sexist terms.
> >   * Unwelcome sexual attention.
> >   * Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior.
> > 
> >    In general, if someone asks you to stop, then stop. Persisting in such a 
> >    behavior after being asked to stop is considered harassment.
> > ```
> > 
> +1
Sure.

FWIW, I think the intent of the 'repeated' was trying to intensify an aspect of this that perhaps some readers are less familiar with. But I think your wording is fine too.


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