[lldb-dev] [cfe-dev] [Call for Volunteers] Bug triaging

Fri Nov 9 09:05:19 PST 2018

To elaborate, I didn't mean to group all components with less than 10 bugs
into one massive component.  Rather, to do it separately for each
subcomponent.  Grouping by expertise is fine, but I would argue that a
component with 2 or 3 bugs filed per year is not a very useful component.
There has to be some kind of bar for having a component otherwise you end
up in the situation we have now.

If you apply this algorithm to the existing set of components, you end up
with something like this:

Clang:
* New Bugs
* C++
* Frontend
* Formatter
* LLVM Codegen
* Static Analyzer
* Driver
* Modules
* libclang
* Other

clang-tools
* clang-tidy
* Other

compiler-rt
* All Bugs

Documentation
* All Bugs

libc++
* All Bugs

libraries
* Backend:X86
* Scalar Optimizations
* Common Code Generator Code
* Backend:AMDGPU
* Loop Optimizer
* Backend:WebAssembly
* Backend:ARM
* DebugInfo
* Backend:AArch64
* MC
* GlobalISel
* Core LLVM classes
* Global Analyses
* Interprocedural Optimizations
* Support Libraries
* Backend:PowerPC
* Linker
* Transformation Utilities
* Other

lld
* ELF
* COFF
* Other

lldb
* All Bugs

LNT
* All Bugs

new-bugs
* All Bugs

OpenMP
* Clang Compiler Support
* Runtime Support

Packaging
* All Bugs

Phabricator
* All Bugs

Polly
* All Bugs

Runtime Libraries
* libprofile

Test Suite
* All Bugs

tools
* All Bugs

Website
* All Bugs

XRay
* All Bugs

I don't think it's helpful to have what essentially amounts to lots of dead
components, because it causes confusion for bug reporters as well as
triagers.  I also don't think the above split is radically different than
what is already there, and for the most part, it still *is* organized by
expertise.  It also means you need to find less volunteers to add
themselves to the cc list for various components.  Instead of needing to
find a separate volunteer for Hexagon, MSP430, PTX, RISC-V, Sparc, Bitcode
Writer, and MCJIT, each of which has only 1 bug each (so in each case
you're looking for a needle in a haystack to find the right person and get
them to volunteer), you only need to find 1 for all of them, and there's a
good chance that person will be at least somewhat familiar with backends in
general and so know who the right person to talk to is in each case.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 12:19 AM Kristof Beyls <Kristof.Beyls at arm.com> wrote:

> Hi Zach,
>
> Thanks for putting the data in a spreadsheet - that’s easier to navigate.
>
> And thanks for re-raising the question whether we have the right
> components in bugzilla.
> As I think this could be an area for lots of different opinions, without
> any near-perfect solution, it has the potential to be a discussion that
> drags on for a long time.
> I thought half of all bugs not getting triaged was a serious enough
> problem to try and tackle first (with this mail thread) before aiming to
> improve the component breakdown in bugzilla.
> I think that setting default-cc lists on the components we have currently
> is largely orthogonal to reducing/merging components, as we can always
> merge default-cc lists when we merge components.
>
>
> On actually coming up with a refined list of components: I think we’ll
> need to define/agree first on what guiding principles we follow when
> deciding something is worthwhile to be a separate component.
> Over the past few weeks I’ve heard a number of different options, ranging
> over:
>
>
>    - Just make a component for every sub-directory in the source code.
>    - Just make a component for every library that gets build in the LLVM
>    build.
>    - Make components so that each component has a significant enough
>    number of issues raised against it (I’m trying to paraphrase what you’re
>    proposing below).
>
>
> In my mind, the guiding principle should be:
>
>    - Components should reflect an area of expertise, so that each
>    component can have a set of recognised people that can triage and/or fix
>    bugs against that component.
>
>
> If we’d follow that principle, I think we should not merge all components
> with less than 10 bugs reported into an “Other” component.
> I do agree that some merging could still probably be done. E.g. maybe all
> the “clang/C++11”, “clang/C++14”, “clang/C++17”, “clang/C++2a” could be
> merged into a single component.
>
> So in summary:
>
>    - I don’t think we need to delay assigning
>    volunteers-for-triaging/default-cc lists to components. If we merge
>    components later on, we can merge cc lists, or asks the volunteers for the
>    relevant components If they want to remain on the default-cc list for the
>    merged component.
>    - My opinion is the we should define components based on areas of
>    expertise.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kristof
>
> On 8 Nov 2018, at 20:39, Zachary Turner <zturner at google.com> wrote:
>
> Just so I'm clear, are we going to attempt to clean up and/or merge the
> components?  If we are, it makes sense to do that before we start putting
> ourselves as default CC's on the various components since they will just
> change.  If not, it would be nice to get some clarification on that now.
>
> I've put the above list into a spreadsheet so people can sort / filter it
> as they see fit.  The link is here:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aeU6P_vN2c63mpkilqni26U7XtEBDbzZYPFnovwr3FI/edit#gid=0
>
> I think a good starting point would be to get rid of any component with
> less than 10 bugs reported so far this year and merge them all into an
> "Other" component.
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:11 AM Kristof Beyls via cfe-dev <
> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yesterday, I’ve landed a description for how reported bugs should be
>> flowing through the various stages of a bug’s life (triage, fixing,
>> closing, …) at http://llvm.org/docs/BugLifeCycle.html.
>> Thanks for the many many people who provided ideas and feedback for this!
>>
>> With there now being a description of what is expected during bug
>> triaging (http://llvm.org/docs/BugLifeCycle.html#triaging-bugs), we're
>> looking for more volunteers to actually do the bug triaging.
>> About half of all raised bugs currently don’t seem to get triaged.
>>
>> The idea is to have one or more volunteers for each of the well over 100
>> different product/component combinations we have in bugzilla.
>> If you volunteer to help with triaging bugs against a specific component,
>> we’ll add you to the default cc list for that component, so that when a new
>> bug is raised against that component, you’ll get notified automatically
>> through email. For components with few reported bugs, a single triager may
>> suffice. For the high-traffic components, we’ll probably need multiple
>> volunteers.
>> I’ve provided the list of product/components below that had bugs reported
>> against in 2018, together with how many bugs were reported against them
>> this year so far, as an indication for which components may need more
>> volunteers.
>>
>> I do want to highlight the “new-bugs/new bugs”, “clang/-New Bugs”
>> components as those tend to be components people file bugs against if they
>> don’t have a clue which part of clang/llvm is causing the issue they’re
>> seeing. I believe that you don’t need to be an expert to be able to triage
>> most of those bugs. If you want to learn more about llvm, volunteering to
>> triage those bugs may be an interesting way to learn a lot more yourself.
>>
>> How can you get added to the default cc list/volunteer?
>> * Preferred way: raise a bug against “Bugzilla Admin”/“Products” to get
>> yourself added to the default cc list of the components of your choice.
>> * Other way: email bugs-admin at lists.llvm.org
>> * Yet another way: just reply to this mail.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kristof
>>
>> new-bugs/new bugs: 535 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/C++: 296 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/-New Bugs: 260 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: X86: 202 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Scalar Optimizations: 152 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Frontend: 120 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> lld/ELF: 120 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Formatter: 108 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> lldb/All Bugs: 102 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/LLVM Codegen: 100 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang-tools-extra/clang-tidy: 87 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Static Analyzer: 84 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Common Code Generator Code: 78 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libc++/All Bugs: 67 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> lld/COFF: 64 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: AMDGPU: 60 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Loop Optimizer: 44 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> lld/All Bugs: 30 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Driver: 30 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Runtime Libraries/libprofile library: 29 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: WebAssembly: 27 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: ARM: 25 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang-tools-extra/Other: 25 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/DebugInfo: 25 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> OpenMP/Clang Compiler Support: 23 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/compiler-rt: 21 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: AArch64: 19 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/C++11: 19 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/MC: 18 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Build scripts/cmake: 17 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Modules: 17 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/GlobalISel: 17 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> OpenMP/Runtime Library: 15 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Global Analyses: 14 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Core LLVM classes: 14 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/libclang: 14 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Documentation/General docs: 13 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Packaging/deb packages: 13 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Support Libraries: 13 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Interprocedural Optimizations: 13 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: PowerPC: 11 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Linker: 11 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Transformation Utilities: 11 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/C++14: 10 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Headers: 10 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Test Suite/lit: 10 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/profile: 10 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llvm-objdump: 9 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llvm-ar: 8 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Polly/Other: 7 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Polly/Optimizer: 7 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Register Allocator: 7 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llc: 7 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> XRay/Runtime: 7 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Packaging/Windows Installer: 6 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Test Suite/Programs Tests: 6 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/CUDA: 6 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/lto: 6 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/fuzzer: 6 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/msan: 6 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: MIPS: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/opt: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Bugzilla Admin/Products: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/OpenCL: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Miscellaneous Instrumentation passes: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llvm-dwarfdump: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/asan: 5 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang/Documentation: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/OrcJIT: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/TableGen: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/bugpoint: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Phabricator/All Bugs: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> XRay/Clang: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: AVR: 4 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Website/General Website: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> lld/MachO: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Object: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llvm-objcopy: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang-tools-extra/Infrastructure: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llvmc: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Target Description Classes: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/llvm-config: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/LLVM assembly language parser: 3 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/builtins: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libc++abi/All Bugs: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/lsan: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/ubsan: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> LNT/LNT: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Polly/isl: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Interprocedural Analyses: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/analyze: 2 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Runtime Libraries/other: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Packaging/binary tarballs: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: Hexagon: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Bitcode Writer: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Bugzilla Admin/Mail: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/MCJIT: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Documentation/Doxygen: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: MSP430: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> tools/opt-viewer: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: RISC-V: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> XRay/Tools: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> clang-tools-extra/clang-query: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> Website/Documentation: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/dfsan: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: PTX: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> libraries/Backend: Sparc: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/cfi: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>> compiler-rt/xray: 1 bugs raised in 2018 (so far)
>>
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