[lldb-dev] MSVC 2013 w/ Python 2.7 is moving to an unsupported toolchain

[Zachary Turner via lldb-dev]

If I remember correctly your bot isn't actually doing anything differently
than my bot [http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-x86-windows-msvc2015].
If you want you could just remove your bot.  If you want to keep it, then
yea getting it on VS2015 and Python 3 would be the best idea.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:20 PM Ted Woodward via lldb-dev <
lldb-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:

> It looks like our bot,
> http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-x86-win7-msvc , has tried to
> update to Python 3.5 and MSVC 2015, but it can’t find python or VC. I’ll
> talk to our buildmiester about it.
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> Should we run this guy with 2013/py2.7 or 2015/py3.5?
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> *From:* lldb-dev [mailto:lldb-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] *On Behalf Of *Zachary
> Turner via lldb-dev
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:55 PM
> *To:* Tamas Berghammer; LLDB
> *Subject:* Re: [lldb-dev] MSVC 2013 w/ Python 2.7 is moving to an
> unsupported toolchain
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:42 AM Tamas Berghammer <tberghammer at google.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi Zachary,
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> We are still using MSVC 2013 and Python 2.7 to compile LLDB on Windows for
> Android Studio and we also have a buildbot what is testing this
> configuration (without sending e-mail at the moment) here:
> http://lab.llvm.org:8011/builders/lldb-windows7-android
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> We are in the discussion to decide what is our plan for going forward both
> in terms of Visual Studio version and Python version and I expect that we
> will make a decision this week. Until then please don't remove any hack we
> have in the code because of MSVC 2013 (e.g. alias template workarounds) and
> if adding new code then please try not to break MSVC 2013. I will send out
> an update about our decision hopefully at the end of this week.
>
> Yea I mentioned already that I'm not planning on removing anything related
> to MSVC 2013, just that I'm personally not supporting it.  Which means that
> if anyone asks for help, or wants to make it work, or if it breaks
> accidentally, they're on their own :)  I don't even have MSVC 2013
> installed on my machine anymore, so I can't fix any MSVC 2013 specific
> issues that arise.
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> Of course if someone else comes along and wants to help, I have no problem
> with that, but due to the difficulty of dealing with incompatibility
> between Python 2 and MSVC 2015, it's just going to be up to someone else to
> continue making that work if they need it.
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> You mentioned that LLVM plan to bump the minimum version of MSVC to 2015.
> Do you have any link to the place where they discussed it or do you know
> anything about the schedule?
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> As far as I know the discussion hasn't started yet, but historically LLVM
> has always been pretty consistent about bumping the required MSVC version
> every 12-18 months.   I know some of the Windows people on the LLVM side
> are already "unoficially" using MSVC 2015 on a regular basis, and that's
> usually a sign that people are getting an early start to see what kind of
> issues might be encountered by the general public when bumping the required
> version.
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