[lldb-dev] Continuing from a breakpoint with multiple threads

[Adrian McCarthy]

>The way this works is that when we go to resume the process, all the
thread's get asked whether they need to stop other threads to implement
whatever strategy they are currently pursuing.  That query ends up calling
the currently active thread plan's "StopOthers" method.

Right, and since the ThreadPlanStepOverBreakpoint responds true to
StopOthers, all the other threads get suspended.  Once the breakpoint is
restored and stepped over and the ThreadPlanStepOverBreakpoint is popped,
the rest of the threads are still suspended.

> But ThreadPlanBase::ShouldStop returns false, so if all your threads are
running just the ThreadPlanBase, then they should all resume.

Except that ShouldStop is not called for threads that are already suspended
 (Thread::ShouldStop has an early out if the resume state is
eStateSuspended).  So I still don't see how those threads can ever get out
of the suspended state.



On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Jim Ingham <jingham at apple.com> wrote:

> The way this works is that when we go to resume the process, all the
> thread's get asked whether they need to stop other threads to implement
> whatever strategy they are currently pursuing.  That query ends up calling
> the currently active thread plan's "StopOthers" method.  If one thread
> returns true to StopOthers, then that thread will get to run solo.  If more
> than one thread returns true I do a little round robin to pick which one
> gets to go.  But ThreadPlanBase::ShouldStop returns false, so if all your
> threads are running just the ThreadPlanBase, then they should all resume.
>
> This all happens in ThreadList::WillResume.
>
> Note I started to add some commands to manipulate the thread plans - of
> which "thread plan list" is the relevant one.  The work isn't done yet (for
> instance I should actually DO something with the --internal and --verbose
> options, but for now I only print user visible plans, not implementation
> only plans.  Anyway, if you are poking around in this area that might be of
> some use.
>
> Jim
>
>
> > On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Adrian McCarthy <amccarth at google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > This is not theoretical.  I'm trying to get TestBreakAfterJoin to pass
> on Windows.  Step 1 was to convert it use <thread> instead of
> <pthreads.h>.  Step 2 was to fix some minor issues in TargetThreadWindows.
> >
> > But now the inferior deadlocks because the one thread that's not
> suspended is waiting on the ones that are.  Once the
> ThreadPlanStepOverBreakpoint plan is popped, the current plan is
> ThreadPlanBase, which, as far as I can tell, does nothing to resume
> suspended threads.
> >
> > I'll compare this to what happens on another platform to see if there
> should be some other thread plan in use.
> >
> > Adrian.
> >
> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Jim Ingham <jingham at apple.com> wrote:
> > When stepping over a breakpoint, the ThreadPlanStepOverBreakpoint gets
> pushed, handles the single instruction step - during which it does suspend
> the other threads - then it gets popped.  When you next resume, whatever
> plan was handling the stepping before the breakpoint was hit will resume
> with whatever policy for running other threads it was using.
> >
> > So it's up to the plan that was on the stack before the
> "StepOverBreakpoint" was pushed to decide this.  Most of the more complex
> plans (like step-over/step-into) try to keep the other threads from running
> if possible (unless the user instructed otherwise) but they also will let
> all the threads run if there's something going on that might deadlock.  For
> instance, if you are doing "next" and we step through straight-line
> instructions in a function, we will only run the one thread you are
> stepping in (by default, you can control this with options to the "thread
> step-over" command.   But if we step into a function, we set a breakpoint
> on the return address and then run with all threads resumed because
> stepping out of a function could run arbitrary code.
> >
> > Anyway, was this a theoretical question, or do you have some instance
> where you are actually seeing a deadlock?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > > On May 29, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Adrian McCarthy <amccarth at google.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > [I'm trying to make TestBreakAfterJoin work on Windows.]
> > >
> > > I'm unclear how continuing from a breakpoint in a multi-threaded
> inferior is supposed to work.
> > >
> > > A breakpoint is set, and the inferior runs until one of its threads
> hits the breakpoint.  The user then selects continue.
> > >
> > > The thread that had hit the breakpoint has a thread plan type of
> ThreadPlanStepOverBreakpoint, which causes all of the other threads to be
> set to state eStateSuspended.  The thread that had hit the breakpoint then
> steps beyond the breakpoint, and the breakpoint is restored.  The thread is
> then resumed again.
> > >
> > > But the other threads are all still suspended, causing the inferior to
> deadlock.
> > >
> > > The question is:  Where should the other threads have their resume
> states set back to a running state?
> > >
> > > Adrian
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