[lldb-dev] Problems running the lldb tests on Fedora Core 20 - 64bit (email originally titled "Add kalimba as a platform.")

Matthew Gardiner mg11 at csr.com
Mon Jul 21 23:00:17 PDT 2014


Thanks Zachary. I think I've figured out now, though... I'm just about 
to post an answer in another mail :-)

Zachary Turner wrote:
> The one with "default" in the name just controls the value if you 
> don't specify it on the command line.  Below that though you see where 
> it sets the real variable, which if I remember correctly is called 
> LLDB_ENABLE_PYTHON_SCRIPTS_SWIG_API_GENERATION.  You can set this from 
> the command line by running cmake 
> -DLLDB_ENABLE_PYTHON_SCRIPTS_SWIG_API_GENERATION=1
>
> Regarding your other question, in scripts\CMakeLists.txt you'll see 
> these two lines:
>
>  COMMAND env PYTHON_EXECUTABLE=${PYTHON_EXECUTABLE} 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/build-swig-wrapper-classes.sh 
> ${LLDB_SOURCE_DIR} ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR} -m
>  COMMAND env PYTHON_EXECUTABLE=${PYTHON_EXECUTABLE} 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/finish-swig-wrapper-classes.sh 
> ${LLDB_SOURCE_DIR} ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR} -m
>
> Change them to:
>
>   COMMAND env PYTHON_EXECUTABLE=${PYTHON_EXECUTABLE} sh -x 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/build-swig-wrapper-classes.sh 
> ${LLDB_SOURCE_DIR} ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR} -m
>   COMMAND env PYTHON_EXECUTABLE=${PYTHON_EXECUTABLE} sh 
> -x ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR}/finish-swig-wrapper-classes.sh 
> ${LLDB_SOURCE_DIR} ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} 
> ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR} ${CMAKE_BINARY_DIR} -m
>
> (I think it's -x anyway, it's whatever option prints out the list of 
> commands that the shell script ultimately runs).  This way when you 
> run CMake, it will print out each command that the shell script runs, 
> and you can use this to isolate which step might be failing.
>
> If you instead use the python swig generator by setting the first 
> variable, you can modify that command line to pass -d to the python 
> scripts, and it will cause them to print out more information as well, 
> such as where they're inputting / outputting files to and from.
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Matthew Gardiner <mg11 at csr.com 
> <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>> wrote:
>
>     Todd Fiala wrote:
>
>
>
>             I'll do a configure/make build on Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64
>         later today
>             to see if I'm getting the same results on configure/make -
>         there
>             has been some changes in python handling more recently,
>         generally
>             to support Windows builds, but we may have unintentionally
>             introduced that via those changes.  At least that way we
>         can see
>             if its consistent with configure/make or if it might just be
>             specific to Fedora Core.
>
>
>         Okay, I tried a configure/make on top of tree on Ubuntu 14.04
>         x86_64.  I did not get the lib64 dir, so this seems to be a
>         diff in the flow between the Ubuntu and FC build.
>
>
>     Ok, thanks for confirming the difference between your ubuntu and
>     my FC experience.
>
>     By the way I've just opened llvm/tools/lldb/CMakeLists.txt
>
>     if ( CMAKE_SYSTEM_NAME MATCHES "Windows" )
>       set(LLDB_DEFAULT_DISABLE_PYTHON 1)
>       set(LLDB_DEFAULT_DISABLE_CURSES 1)
>       if (LLDB_DISABLE_PYTHON)
>         set(LLDB_DEFAULT_ENABLE_PYTHON_SCRIPTS_SWIG_API_GENERATION 0)
>       else()
>         set(LLDB_DEFAULT_ENABLE_PYTHON_SCRIPTS_SWIG_API_GENERATION 1)
>       endif()
>     else()
>       set(LLDB_DEFAULT_DISABLE_PYTHON 0)
>       set(LLDB_DEFAULT_DISABLE_CURSES 0)
>       set(LLDB_DEFAULT_ENABLE_PYTHON_SCRIPTS_SWIG_API_GENERATION 0)
>     endif()
>
>     I'm guessing
>
>     set(LLDB_DEFAULT_ENABLE_PYTHON_SCRIPTS_SWIG_API_GENERATION 0) means:
>
>     "In non-windows we use shell scripts not python to run swig".
>
>     Anyway, I guess this is the CMake variable Zachary meant.
>
>
>
>         Incidentally, I am having trouble running tests with
>         configure/make.  Might just be my setup or configure
>         invocation, but I'll get around to tracking that down here at
>         some point.  For now, I'd definitely recommend going the
>         cmake/ninja route for testing.
>
>
>     Yeah, agreed, at least till we get this figured out.
>
>             Thanks for identifying that!
>
>             -Todd
>
>
>
>             On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Matthew Gardiner
>         <mg11 at csr.com <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>
>             <mailto:mg11 at csr.com <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>>> wrote:
>
>                 Todd,
>
>                 I've since discovered that the cmake/ninja build
>         system also
>                 results in a lib and lib64 directory, with the
>         liblldb.so and
>                 other .sos in the lib folder but the
>                 python2.7/site-packages/lldb under lib64. (In fact
>         with cmake
>                 build I see no python2.7 folder at all under lib, it's all
>                 under lib64).
>
>                 So Todd, focusing back on autoconf/make builds, after
>         doing
>                 the ./configure && make in the sibling build
>         directory, do you
>                 see for your linux 64-bit builds the
>                 python2.7/site-packages/lldb under the lib64
>         sub-folder and
>                 the lldb/llvm .sos under the lib64 sub-folder?
>
>                 How do you get this to work:
>
>
>                
>         tfiala at tfiala2:/mnt/ssd/work/macosx.sync/mbp-svn/build-debug/lib$
>                 PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/python2.7/site-packages python
>                 Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56)
>                 [GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
>                 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more
>                 information.
>                 >>> import lldb
>                 >>> dir(lldb)
>
>                 Do you run another script or make target after doing
>         the basic
>                 llvm/lldb make?  That is to move
>         python2.7/site-packages/lldb
>                 underneath lib. I think that's what I'd have to do on my
>                 system, since after the basic make my lib and lib64
>                 directories have the following contents:
>
>                
>         ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib/python2.7/site-packages
>
>                 $ ls -al
>                 total 32
>                 drwxrwxr-x 2 mg11 mg11  4096 Jul 21 14:40 .
>                 drwxrwxr-x 3 mg11 mg11  4096 Jul 21 14:40 ..
>                 -rwxr-xr-x 1 mg11 mg11 21795 Jul 21 14:40 readline.so
>
>                 $ cd ../../../lib64/python2.7/site-packages/
>
>                
>         ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages
>
>                 $ ls -al
>                 total 12
>                 drwxrwxr-x 3 mg11 mg11 4096 Jul 21 14:42 .
>                 drwxrwxr-x 3 mg11 mg11 4096 Jul 21 14:42 ..
>                 drwxrwxr-x 5 mg11 mg11 4096 Jul 21 14:42 lldb
>
>
>                 Any ideas?
>                 Matt
>
>
>                 Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
>                     Hi Todd,
>
>                     Thanks for taking the time to come up with these tips.
>                     First off my distro is Fedora Core 20 64-bit. So to
>                     further my investigation I blew away all the
>         sources, and
>                     did svn co llvm, (lldb clang into llvm/tools),
>         made the
>                     sibling build dir, then did:
>
>                     ~/src/p4play/build
>                     $ ../llvm/configure --enable-targets=x86_64
>                     --enable-shared --enable-cxx11
>         --prefix=`pwd`/../install
>                     && make -j 8
>
>                     After the successful build I do ldd. Basically lld
>         finds
>                     all dependencies for liblldb.so...
>
>                     ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib
>                     $ ldd liblldb.so
>                         linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffa61fe000)
>         libLLVM-3.5svn.so <http://libLLVM-3.5svn.so>
>         <http://libLLVM-3.5svn.so> =>
>                    
>         /home/mg11/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib/./libLLVM-3.5svn.so
>         <http://libLLVM-3.5svn.so>
>                     <http://libLLVM-3.5svn.so> (0x00007f2e53405000)
>
>                         libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0
>                     (0x00007f2e531cc000)
>                         libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2
>         (0x00007f2e52fc8000)
>                         libutil.so.1 => /lib64/libutil.so.1
>         (0x00007f2e52dc5000)
>                         libpython2.7.so.1.0 => /lib64/libpython2.7.so.1.0
>                     (0x00007f2e529fe000)
>                         librt.so.1 => /lib64/librt.so.1
>         (0x00007f2e527f6000)
>                         libedit.so.0 => /lib64/libedit.so.0
>         (0x00007f2e525ba000)
>                         libncurses.so.5 => /lib64/libncurses.so.5
>                     (0x00007f2e52392000)
>                         libtinfo.so.5 => /lib64/libtinfo.so.5
>         (0x00007f2e52168000)
>                         libpanel.so.5 => /lib64/libpanel.so.5
>         (0x00007f2e51f64000)
>                         libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007f2e51d4d000)
>                         libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007f2e51a46000)
>                         libstdc++.so.6 => /lib64/libstdc++.so.6
>                     (0x00007f2e5173e000)
>                         libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
>         (0x00007f2e51527000)
>                         libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f2e51168000)
>                         /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0000003675a00000)
>
>                     However, regarding python loading the lldb
>         bindings I see
>                     my build/Debug+Asserts has a lib and a lib64 folder.
>
>                     ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts
>                     $ ls
>                     bin  lib  lib64
>
>                     If I try to import lldb when I have "lib" as my
>         PYTHONPATH
>                     i.e.
>
>                     ~/src/main/build/Debug+Asserts/lib
>                     $ PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/python2.7/site-packages/ python
>                     >>> import lldb
>                     Traceback (most recent call last):
>                       File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>                     ImportError: No module named lldb
>                     >>>
>
>                     This is not surprising, since
>                    
>         ~/src/main/build/Debug+Asserts/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ only
>                     contains readline.so.
>                     So I cd to lib64. This looks more promising since
>         there is
>                     a lldb folder below site-packages. So now I do "import
>                     lldb" with "lib64" instead:
>
>                     ~/src/main/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64
>                     $ PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/
>         python
>                     Python 2.7.5 (default, Feb 19 2014, 13:47:28)
>                     [GCC 4.8.2 20131212 (Red Hat 4.8.2-7)] on linux2
>                     Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license"
>         for more
>                     information.
>                     >>> import lldb
>                     Traceback (most recent call last):
>                       File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>                       File
>                    
>         "/home/mg11/src/main/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/lldb/__init__.py",
>                     line 52, in <module>
>                         _lldb = swig_import_helper()
>                       File
>                    
>         "/home/mg11/src/main/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/lldb/__init__.py",
>                     line 44, in swig_import_helper
>                         import _lldb
>                     ImportError: No module named _lldb
>                     >>>
>
>                     So cd to
>                    
>         ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/lldb,
>                     and list:
>
>                    
>         ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/lldb
>                     $ ls -l
>                     total 1196
>                     -rw-rw-r-- 1 mg11 mg11   3905 Jul 21 08:25
>                     embedded_interpreter.py
>                     drwxrwxr-x 3 mg11 mg11   4096 Jul 21 08:25 formatters
>                     -rw-rw-r-- 1 mg11 mg11 495675 Jul 21 08:25 __init__.py
>                     -rw-rw-r-- 1 mg11 mg11 708200 Jul 21 09:09
>         __init__.pyc
>                     lrwxrwxrwx 1 mg11 mg11     19 Jul 21 08:25 _lldb.so ->
>                     ../../../liblldb.so !BROKEN SYMLINK!
>                     drwxrwxr-x 2 mg11 mg11   4096 Jul 21 08:25 runtime
>                     drwxrwxr-x 2 mg11 mg11   4096 Jul 21 08:25 utils
>
>                     _lldb.so is broken above as the link above assumes
>                     liblldb.so is just 3 dirs back. However, it isn't -
>                     because it's not in lib64, *it's in lib*. So it
>         looks like
>                     things are getting a bit mashed up due to
>         32-bit/64-bit
>                     directory issues. If I copy the .so files from lib to
>                     lib64, then it fixes my broken sym-link issue. And I
>                     progress a little further.
>
>                     ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64
>                     $ PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/python2.7/site-packages python
>                     Python 2.7.5 (default, Feb 19 2014, 13:47:28)
>                     [GCC 4.8.2 20131212 (Red Hat 4.8.2-7)] on linux2
>                     Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license"
>         for more
>                     information.
>                     >>> import lldb
>                     Traceback (most recent call last):
>                       File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>                       File
>                    
>         "/home/mg11/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/lldb/__init__.py",
>                     line 52, in <module>
>                         _lldb = swig_import_helper()
>                       File
>                    
>         "/home/mg11/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/lldb/__init__.py",
>                     line 48, in swig_import_helper
>                         _mod = imp.load_module('_lldb', fp, pathname,
>         description)
>                     ImportError: libLLVM-3.5svn.so
>         <http://libLLVM-3.5svn.so> <http://libLLVM-3.5svn.so>:
>
>                     cannot open shared object file: No such file or
>         directory
>                     >>>
>
>                     So now I push the location of these .sos into my
>                     environment with LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Finally lldb
>         imports!
>
>                     ~/src/p4play/build/Debug+Asserts/lib64
>                     $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.
>                     PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/python2.7/site-packages python
>                     Python 2.7.5 (default, Feb 19 2014, 13:47:28)
>                     [GCC 4.8.2 20131212 (Red Hat 4.8.2-7)] on linux2
>                     Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license"
>         for more
>                     information.
>                     >>> import lldb
>                     >>> dir(lldb)
>                     ['INT32_MAX', 'LLDB_ARCH_DEFAULT',
>                     ... lots more ...
>                     >>>
>
>                     So, I think the crux of the problem I'm seeing here is
>                     that on a 64-bit linux build (using autoconf/make)
>         we get
>                     the binaries distributed around the lib and lib64
>                     sub-folders without adequate coordination with the
>         test
>                     tools. I'll retry now with cmake/ninja and see if my
>                     experience differs.
>
>                     Matt
>
>
>
>                     Todd Fiala wrote:
>
>
>                         Hey Matt,
>
>                         (Adding back the list since these are general
>                         troubleshooting tips for getting tests running).
>
>                         Sorry you’re having so much trouble with this!
>
>                         Ok so a few things to troubleshoot:
>
>                         Regardless of the build system used, go to the
>         build
>                         output’s lib dir. Do this command:
>                         ldd liblldb.so
>
>                         That will spit out all the shared libraries
>         that your
>                         liblldb.so is trying to link against. The python
>                         message your seeing will happen if python
>         can’t find
>                         the lldb module (as the message suggests and
>         you were
>                         tracing down), /or/ if it can find it but fails to
>                         load it (which is often the case - something
>         cannot be
>                         found when the liblldb.so tries to load as a
>                         consequence of the lldb python module trying
>         to load).
>
>                         You should see something that looks roughly
>         like this:
>
>                        
>         |tfiala at tfiala2:/mnt/ssd/work/macosx.sync/mbp-svn/build-debug/lib$
>                         ldd liblldb.so
>                                  linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fffe9dfe000)
>                                  libstdc++.so.6 =>
>                         /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
>                         (0x00007f6357e71000)
>                                  libm.so.6 =>
>         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
>                         (0x00007f6357b6b000)
>                                  libedit.so.2 =>
>                         /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libedit.so.2
>                         (0x00007f635793a000)
>                                  libpanel.so.5 =>
>                         /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpanel.so.5
>                         (0x00007f6357736000)
>                                  libncurses.so.5 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5
>         (0x00007f6357513000)
>                                  libtinfo.so.5 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtinfo.so.5
>         (0x00007f63572e9000)
>                                  libpython2.7.so.1.0 =>
>                         /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpython2.7.so.1.0
>                         (0x00007f6356d82000)
>                                  librt.so.1 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
>         (0x00007f6356b7a000)
>                                  libdl.so.2 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
>         (0x00007f6356975000)
>                                  libpthread.so.0 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
>         (0x00007f6356757000)
>                                  libz.so.1 =>
>         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1
>                         (0x00007f635653e000)
>                                  libgcc_s.so.1 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
>         (0x00007f6356327000)
>                                  libc.so.6 =>
>         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
>                         (0x00007f6355f61000)
>          /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f635d584000)
>                                  libutil.so.1 =>
>                         /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libutil.so.1
>         (0x00007f6355d5d000)
>                        
>         tfiala at tfiala2:/mnt/ssd/work/macosx.sync/mbp-svn/build-debug/lib$site-packages
>
>                         |
>
>                         The left side shows the short name that the .so is
>                         referencing. The right side shows what the loader
>                         actually mapped it to with the current
>         environment. If
>                         there is a problem loading liblldb.so, this
>         will show
>                         as (I think) question marks on the right side
>                         indicating that the shared library linkage was not
>                         found. Let me know if you see something like that.
>
>                         If you get past this part and you don’t see any
>                         issues, the next thing to try is:
>                        
>         PYTHONPATH=/path/to/your/lldb/lib/python2.7/site-packages
>                         python
>                         Then do an ‘import lldb’, then a ‘dir (lldb)’,
>         like so:
>
>                        
>         |tfiala at tfiala2:/mnt/ssd/work/macosx.sync/mbp-svn/build-debug/lib$
>                         PYTHONPATH=`pwd`/python2.7/site-packages python
>                         Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56)
>                         [GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
>                         Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or
>         "license" for
>                         more information.
>                         >>> import lldb
>                         >>> dir(lldb)
>                         ['INT32_MAX', 'LLDB_ARCH_DEFAULT',
>                         'LLDB_ARCH_DEFAULT_32BIT',
>         'LLDB_ARCH_DEFAULT_64BIT',
>                         'LLDB_DEFAULT_BREAK_SIZE', 'LLDB_DEFAULT_SHELL',
>                         'LLDB_GENERIC_ERROR', 'LLDB_INVALID_ADDRESS',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_BREAK_ID', 'LLDB_INVALID_CPUTYPE',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_FRAME_ID',
>         'LLDB_INVALID_IMAGE_TOKEN',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_INDEX32',
>         'LLDB_INVALID_IVAR_OFFSET',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_LINE_NUMBER',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_MODULE_VERSION',
>         'LLDB_INVALID_OFFSET',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_PROCESS_ID',
>         'LLDB_INVALID_QUEUE_ID',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_REGNUM',
>         'LLDB_INVALID_SIGNAL_NUMBER',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_THREAD_ID', 'LLDB_INVALID_UID',
>                         'LLDB_INVALID_WATCH_ID',
>         'LLDB_MAX_NUM_OPTION_SETS',
>                         'LLDB_OPT_SET_1',
>
>                         ... (lots of stuff removed)
>                         |
>
>                         That will tell you if you can load the lldb module
>                         when you specify exactly where it should be.
>         If you
>                         can do this, the tests basically should not have
>                         trouble loading lldb. (Obviously somewhere
>         we’ll find
>                         an issue here). If this does work, then we need to
>                         trace why the python test runner calls are
>         mixing up
>                         the python path. In general you don’t need to
>         specify
>                         any options to the ninja/make commands to get the
>                         tests to run from the build dir.
>
>                         Can you refresh my memory on what Linux distro
>         you’re
>                         using and whether it’s 64 or 32 bit? (I don’t
>         get over
>                         to the 32-bit distros much these days).
>
>                         I hope that gets us closer to finding out
>         what’s up!
>                          Keep me posted.
>
>                         -Todd
>
>>
>
>                         On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Matthew Gardiner
>                         <mg11 at csr.com <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>
>         <mailto:mg11 at csr.com <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>>
>                         <mailto:mg11 at csr.com <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>
>         <mailto:mg11 at csr.com <mailto:mg11 at csr.com>>>> wrote:
>
>                             Hi Todd,
>
>                             Well I managed to get cmake and ninja
>         working! I
>                         needed (it would
>                             appear) to download/build/install the latest
>                         versions of both from
>                             source. Then I do:
>
>                             build $  cmake ../llvm/ -G Ninja
>                         -DLLVM_TARGETS_TO_BUILD="X86"
>                             -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS=ON -DLLVM_ENABLE_CXX1Y=ON
>                             ...
>                             build $ ninja
>                             ...
>
>                             However "ninja check-lldb" still fails to find
>                         lldb.py. It is does
>                             get built, but the path which dotest.py
>         uses to
>                         find it is wrong
>                             on my system. Anyway, I'm going to
>         continue trying
>                         to analyse it
>                             myself for now. I'll probably post a new
>         thread to
>                         lldb-dev if I
>                             continue to struggle.
>
>                             Anyway, have a good weekend,
>                             Matt
>
>
>
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