[cfe-dev] Disable integer promotion (Dilan Manatunga via cfe-dev)
James Molloy via cfe-dev
cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org
Mon May 30 13:05:48 PDT 2016
Hi,
I'm on vacation at the moment with only a phone to reply on but...
TruncateToMinimalBitwidths is, as you point out, only for vectorisation.
There are three cases:
1. I8 and i16 are never supported on the target.
2. I8 and i16 are supported for vectors but not for scalars (ARM)
3. I8 and i16 are supported for scalars and vectors (x86)
(3) is handled by simplifyDemandedBits in the instruction combiner, so it
will work on scalars and vectors but will only ever truncate promotions if
the smaller integer operation is valid on the target.
(2) is handled by truncateToMinimalBitwidths where we need to, as part of
the vectorisation profitability analysis, determine what the loop will look
like after vectorisation. We insert trunc and ext nodes simply as a
shortcut - we could elide the promotions as you do, but there are corner
cases that make it a bit awkward so we just add more casts and let a
cleanup pass (instcombine) remove them intelligently.
I hope this answers your queries a bit more? Both of these should be
kicking in already if your target advertises i8 as being legal for scalars
or vectors, so I would check your target transform info to ensure the
legality hook is returning true when it should.
Cheers
James
On Mon, 30 May 2016 at 16:11, Norman Rink <norman.rink at tu-dresden.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I realize this is potentially only tangent to the ongoing discussion, but
> does anyone have significant experience with how integer promotion
> interacts with vectorization? When I looked into this interaction, I did
> not have the time to conduct a careful analysis, but I have reason to
> believe that integer promotion can get in the way of vectorization, thereby
> limiting its benefits. Can anyone comment? Thanks.
>
> Best,
>
> Norman
>
>
> From: "Martin J. O'Riordan" <martin.oriordan at movidius.com>
> Organization: Movidius Ltd.
> Date: Monday 30 May 2016 14:53
> To: 'James Molloy' <james at jamesmolloy.co.uk>, 'David Majnemer' <
> david.majnemer at gmail.com>, 'Dilan Manatunga' <manatunga at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'Clang Dev' <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>, Norman Rink <
> norman.rink at tu-dresden.de>
> Subject: RE: [cfe-dev] Disable integer promotion (Dilan Manatunga via
> cfe-dev)
>
> Hi James and thanks for pointing out the existence of this transformation,
> we were quite unaware of it.
>
>
>
> As it happens, I am highly allergic to re-invention and avoid doing so
> whenever possible; the only reason an already overburdened team of 2
> developers will re-invent is because they are unaware of an existing
> solution which is not difficult given the scope and complexity of LLVM.
>
>
>
> So far as I can tell, ‘truncateToMinimalBitwidths’ is always enabled, so
> it is not a target specific selection and our target should automatically
> reap the rewards of this optimisation pass. I certainly cannot find a
> switch to enable or disable it. But in fact we are not seeing anywhere
> near the benefits we would expect.
>
>
>
> void InnerLoopVectorizer::truncateToMinimalBitwidths() {
>
> // For every instruction `I` in MinBWs, truncate the operands, create a
>
> // truncated version of `I` and reextend its result. InstCombine runs
>
> // later and will remove any ext/trunc pairs.
>
>
>
> This appears to only run on inner-loops, and it appear to insert
> narrowings/truncations and subsequent widenings/extendings into the IR
> chains.
>
>
>
> The DataLayout for our target includes “-n8:16:32”, so it should see the
> benefits of optimisations for multiple native integer support. We also
> provide both 32-bit SIMD and 128-bit SIMD native support.
>
>
>
> The pass that we wrote is quite different. It is run as a machine pass
> prior to loop-unrolling and vectorisation, and instead of pre-truncating
> and post-extending IR chains, it removes the existing pre-extending and
> post-truncating that brackets a sequence of IR operations if it can prove
> that the outcome is the same. The results are actually very good and match
> what our expectations are from such a transformation, which makes me wonder
> “why does ‘truncateToMinimalBitwidths’ not already produce comparable
> results?”.
>
>
>
> Our observations are that with the new pass, a significant majority of
> vectorised code showed some improvement, with results as high as 40X faster
> than without. Of the small number of tests that regressed in performance,
> adding a ‘#pragma clang unroll_count(N)’ eliminated the loss. This could
> probably be eliminate too by better tuning of the cost-models.
>
>
>
> The re-invention is inadvertent, but in any event our new pass appears to
> provide considerable additional performance improvements that are not
> currently happening with the stock LLVM transformations.
>
>
>
> I will have to contrive some tests to see why ‘truncateToMinimalBitwidths’
> is not already doing this, and if there is something that we have done
> wrong in our target that is breaking it, I will happily revert to an
> existing solution.
>
>
>
> MartinO
>
>
>
> *From:* James Molloy [mailto:james at jamesmolloy.co.uk
> <james at jamesmolloy.co.uk>]
> *Sent:* 28 May 2016 19:58
> *To:* Martin.ORiordan at movidius.com; David Majnemer; Dilan Manatunga
> *Cc:* Clang Dev; Norman Rink
> *Subject:* Re: [cfe-dev] Disable integer promotion (Dilan Manatunga via
> cfe-dev)
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> X86 has native support for i8 and i16. Aarch64 and ARM have native i8 and
> i16 vector operations that are lowered and analysed using
> truncateToMinimalBitwidths in LoopVectorize. Similarly for scalar code on
> x86 truncation is done in instcombine.
>
> Why do you need to reinvent this?
>
> Cheers,
>
> James
>
> On Sat, 28 May 2016 at 19:02, Martin J. O'Riordan via cfe-dev <
> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
> Instead of suppressing the integer promotion rules which are part of the
> ISO C/C++ Standards, we wrote a new pass that analyses the IR to see if the
> input values and output value were of an integer type that was narrower
> than the promoted types used in the IR, and if we could prove that the
> outcome would be identical if the type was unpromoted, then we reduced the
> IR to use the narrower form.
>
>
>
> In our case the motive was to enhance vectorisation because our vector ALU
> can work with 8-, 16- and 32-bit integers natively, and handling ‘vXi8’
> vectors ended was actually being promoted to multiple ‘v4i32’ vectors
> requiring 4 times as many instructions as were necessary, or worse still,
> fully scalarized.
>
>
>
> This pass was presented by my colleague Stephen Rogers in a “Lighting
> Talk” at the October 2015 LLVM Conference in San Jose and titled “Integer
> Vector Optimizations and “Usual Arithmetic Conversions””. I can’t find
> the paper or slides on the LLVM Meetings page, perhaps these are not
> archived for Lightning Talks (?), but as they are not large I have attached
> them here.
>
>
>
> This approach allowed us to gain the optimisations that are possible with
> our architecture which supports 8-, 16- and 32-bit native integer
> computations (scalar and vector), while also respecting the ISO C and C++
> Standards. I am a lot more nervous of a front-end switch for this, as it
> will lead to non-compliant programs, and in the presence of overloading and
> template-instantiation it could also lead to very different programs, and
> would recommend that we do not add a front-end switch which alters the
> semantics of the language in this way.
>
>
>
> It is my intention to publish this pass if it is of general interest, and
> since it is target independent there are no particular blocking issue for
> me (Patents, IP, etc.) to doing so. I do have to catch-up on the HEAD
> revision to ensure that it still works correctly, but it was working
> perfectly at SVN #262824 and it will be a month before I have enough time
> to catch up on the HEAD revision as we are busy with a product release that
> takes precedence.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> MartinO
>
>
>
> *From:* cfe-dev [mailto:cfe-dev-bounces at lists.llvm.org] *On Behalf Of *David
> Majnemer via cfe-dev
> *Sent:* 27 May 2016 19:55
> *To:* Dilan Manatunga <manatunga at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* clang developer list <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>; Norman Rink <
> norman.rink at tu-dresden.de>; cfe-dev-request at lists.llvm.org
> *Subject:* Re: [cfe-dev] Disable integer promotion (Dilan Manatunga via
> cfe-dev)
>
>
>
> You could set IntWidth to 16 or 8 in clang, not unlike what MSP430 does:
>
>
> https://github.com/llvm-mirror/clang/blob/3317d0fa0bd1f5c5adc14bcc6adc2a38acc9064b/lib/Basic/Targets.cpp#L6823
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Dilan Manatunga via cfe-dev <
> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
> I need disabling this feature because I am researching architectures where
> 8-bit or 16-bit adds are preferred to 32-bit. So, integer promotion kinda
> mucks everything up. I was hoping there was a way in clang to disable it,
> instead of having to implement an LLVM pass to coalesce unnecessary
> promotions.
>
>
>
> Thanks for catching the IR mistake. Should have double checked that. This
> should be the correct version:
>
> nt8_t a = 1;
>
> int8_t b = 2;
>
> int8_t c = a + b
>
>
>
> The LLVM IR will be:
>
> %x = sext i8 %a to i32
>
> %y = sext i8 %b to i32
>
> %z = add nsw i32 %x, %y
>
> %c = trunc i32 %z to i8
>
>
>
> Instead, it would simply compile to:
>
> $c = add nsw i8 %z, $y
>
>
>
> -Dilan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:30 AM Norman Rink via cfe-dev <
> cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Dilan,
>
> I would like to second your request for an option to disable integer
> promotion. What do you need it for?
>
> As far as I am aware, there is no such option and the code that implements
> integer promotion is somewhat scattered across ³SemaExpr.cpp².
>
> Also, I think your example code snippet contains a few ³i32²s too many. It
> will be clearer to people what you are looking for if your code example is
> consistent with your question.
>
> Best,
>
> Norman
>
>
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 01:50:12 +0000
> >From: Dilan Manatunga via cfe-dev <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>
> >To: cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org
> >Subject: [cfe-dev] Disable integer promotion
> >Message-ID:
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> >
> >Is there a way to disable integer promotion when performing math
> >operations. For example, when compiling a statement such as this:
> >int8_t a = 1;
> >int8_t b = 2;
> >int8_t c = a + b
> >
> >The LLVM IR will be:
> >%x = sext i32 %a to i32
> >%y = sext i32 %b to i32
> >%z = add nsw i32 %x, %y
> >%c = trunc i32 %z to i16
> >
> >Instead, it would simply compile to:
> >$c = add nsw i32 %z, $y
> >
> >-Dilan Manatunga
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