[cfe-dev] RFC: Default language standard mode policy

[Hal Finkel via cfe-dev]

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> From: "Richard Smith via cfe-commits" <cfe-commits at lists.llvm.org>
> To: "cfe-commits" <cfe-commits at lists.llvm.org>, "Clang Dev"
> <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:09:37 PM
> Subject: RFC: Default language standard mode policy

> Hi all!

> I'd like to establish a policy for Clang's default language standard
> (if none is specified with -std), as follows:

> Clang defaults to the most recent published standard for the selected
> language that it fully implements.

> The practical impact of this is that clang++ will default to C++14
> for C++ compilations (for version 3.9 onwards) and will default to
> C++17 once our implementation support is complete and the standard
> is published (whichever happens later).
I think that we need to include libc++ in this criteria as well. I think we'll also need some CMake flags to adjust the default for builds for systems on which this won't work. 

> I'd suggest that we apply the same policy for clang-cl, but if it's
> important that we enable a not-yet-fully-implemented standard for cl
> compatibility, that seems reasonable.

> The question of whether the default mode for the GCC-compatible
> driver should be -std=gnuXXX or -std=cXXX is separate, but also
> likely worth discussing. Enabling GNU keywords by default is a very
> odd choice, and if we believe we can change our defaults without
> breaking the world then this seems like a good time to do so.
Unfortunately, on many systems, some standard system headers won't even parse without GNU extensions enabled. I think we'll need to leave the GNU extensions on by default (at least for parsing system headers). 

> I also intend to make explicit in our documentation that our -std=XXX
> flag enables the selected standard, *plus all relevant issues in
> Defect Report status from the relevant language committee* (it
> doesn't make sense to support a language without its bugfixes).
+1 

-Hal 

> Thoughts?
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Hal Finkel 
Assistant Computational Scientist 
Leadership Computing Facility 
Argonne National Laboratory 
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