[cfe-dev] clang-refactoring tool proposal
Alexander Droste via cfe-dev
cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org
Thu Aug 18 04:56:53 PDT 2016
Hi Kirill,
sounds great. Thanks for being open to contributions!
-Alex
On 17.08.16 10:27, Kirill Bobyrev wrote:
> Hi Alexander and Krzysztof,
>
> Thank you for your interest!
>
> Please find my comment inline.
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Krzysztof Wiśniewski <k.k.wisniewski1 at gmail.com
> <mailto:k.k.wisniewski1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> I've just started to search for some open-source project to join because
> a) I want to re-learn C++ (there have been a few years since I've used it)
> b) need some topic for my masters thesis
>
> The tool Kirill proposes sounds like a good opportunity for me to join - as
> far as I understand, it does not exist yet and there seems to be a community
> that is interested in using it when it's done. Do you have any timeline when
> the planning and development could kick-off? Are there any discussions/docs
> I should go through first? If you think I should start by doing some bugs in
> other clang-related projects let me know.
>
> As soon as design docs look fine for me. I am currently working on design docs
> and I hope to finish them soon. There will be enough info about everything in
> these docs. Feedback on them will be highly appreciated.
>
> Yes, it does not exist in upstream yet, there's a "demo" that I have, but it's
> still very basic one. I don't have any timeline, but I hope to get design docs
> to public by the end of this week.
>
> I suppose there'll be a lot of work in that direction, so feedback and
> contributions are always nice!
>
> By the way, there's a page about Open Projects @ Clang
> <http://clang.llvm.org/OpenProjects.html> if you are interested.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Chris Wisniewski
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 12:11 PM Alexander Droste via cfe-dev
> <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> like everyone else, I think improved refactoring capabilities
> in clang would be pretty exciting. This is something I would
> really like to work on. So if there's interest to delegate
> some chunks of work I'd like to help.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 11.08.16 14:01, Kirill Bobyrev via cfe-dev wrote:
> > Ben, Milian,
> >
> > Thank you for the feedback!
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Milian Wolff via cfe-dev
> > <cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>
> <mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org <mailto:cfe-dev at lists.llvm.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > On Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 00:06:46 CEST Ben Jackson via cfe-dev wrote:
> > > First, I think clang-refactor is a great idea and a great point of focus for
> > > really useful tools.
> > > > My proposed solution is to create clang-refactor tool, which would be an
> > > > “umbrella” for other refactoring modules. A prototype of clang-refactor
> > > > would merge clang-rename inside of it and other modules and refactorings
> > > > would be added later.
> > > >
> > > > A properly designed clang-refactor tool would be able to process multiple
> > > > Translation Units, which is crucial for all mentioned refactoring.
> > >
> > > As a maintainer of a code comprehension tool which uses libclang, it would
> > > be really useful if such a refactoring ability was exposed via the
> > > higher-level APIs. We’d *love* to have IDE-like refactoring for C/C++/etc.
> > > in the tool, and I’m sure our users would too :).
> > >
> > > One of the challenges we have with clang-rename, clang-include-fixer etc. is
> > > that they are difficult to integrate with existing applications which use
> > > libclang. Or perhaps I should say, they require orthogonal integration -
> > > currently to integrate these tools, even though I have successfully
> > > generated a TU/AST etc., I have to shell out to a binary which users may or
> > > may not have installed.
> >
> > That's true. Clang-refactor should consider making the interface to all of the
> > subtools more or less uniform.
> >
> > >
> > > I know that is probably complex to deliver in practice, and I understand
> > > that the maintainers may have different opinions on the scope of libclang
> > > (or even the scope of this discussion!), but I wanted to throw the idea out
> > > there, in case there is appetite. Certainly, I would be super excited to
> > > integrate these tools into ycmd/YouCompleteMe. I don’t doubt others would
> > > similarly benefit.
> >
> > Yes, ycmd and YCM are very good things to integrate into, but I think that
> > shouldn't be the only focus, i.e. a good high-level API should provide a nice
> > and easy way of integration to any other third-party projects, too.
> >
> >
> > I can only second the above. KDevelop is in exactly the same position, and I
> > bet lots of other tools out there are as well. Just think of the potential
> > time that can be saved by handing in an existing TU instead of having to parse
> > that yet again.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --
> > Milian Wolff
> > mail at milianw.de <mailto:mail at milianw.de> <mailto:mail at milianw.de
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> > http://milianw.de
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