[cfe-dev] RFC: A proposal to move toward using C++11 features in LLVM & Clang / bounding support for old host compilers

Douglas Gregor dgregor at apple.com
Thu Oct 31 09:41:51 PDT 2013


On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org> wrote:

> On 31 October 2013 00:24, Eric Christopher <echristo at gmail.com> wrote:
> The timeframe “2 whole years” might seem like a long time to us, but not everybody lives in the world where they adopt new toolsets so quickly.  That’s my concern about dropping VS 2010 support.  So this is both a question about how fast Visual Studio moves, but also the people who use Visual Studio.
> 
> Agreed. I think the question here is whether or not it's reasonable for this change and less whether or not it's reasonable as a path for each release to then deprecate everything more than 2 years old. I'd like to get rid of VS2010 because I want the features of 2012 and few of the current people developing on windows have spoken up (and most of them positively), but you do quite a bit of work and maintenance with windows so your thoughts are definitely important here. Do you think it's reasonable?
> 
> You guys are still taking it too literally... ;)
> 
> Let's take one decision at a time. We seem not to have any reason to keep VS2010 support. Check box.

Not quite :). At present, we (= Apple) still have some dependencies on building top-of-tree Clang with VS2010. We’re currently investigating how quickly we can move those to VS2012 or newer.

	- Doug


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