[cfe-dev] RFC: A proposal to move toward using C++11 features in LLVM & Clang / bounding support for old host compilers

[Eric Christopher]

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Ted Kremenek <kremenek at apple.com> wrote:

> On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:46 PM, Renato Golin <renato.golin at linaro.org>
> wrote:
>
> So, I didn't take Chandler's words that literally, but even if you do,
> four previous releases means 2 whole years. Given current interest from
> Microsoft towards C++ compatibility in their compiler, and the capacity
> they have of getting things done (basically, money), I'd be surprised if
> they'd fall behind for that long.
>
>
> The timeframe “2 whole years” might seem like a long time to us, but not
> everybody lives in the world where they adopt new toolsets so quickly.
>  That’s my concern about dropping VS 2010 support.  So this is both a
> question about how fast Visual Studio moves, but also the people who use
> Visual Studio.
>

Agreed. I think the question here is whether or not it's reasonable for
this change and less whether or not it's reasonable as a path for each
release to then deprecate everything more than 2 years old. I'd like to get
rid of VS2010 because I want the features of 2012 and few of the current
people developing on windows have spoken up (and most of them positively),
but you do quite a bit of work and maintenance with windows so your
thoughts are definitely important here. Do you think it's reasonable?

-eric
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