r213010 - Define ENABLE_CLANG_ARCMT in the legacy build system too

Jonathan Roelofs jonathan at codesourcery.com
Tue Jul 15 16:38:12 PDT 2014



On 7/15/14, 3:22 PM, Nico Weber wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Alp Toker <alp at nuanti.com
> <mailto:alp at nuanti.com>> wrote:
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>     On 16/07/2014 00:38, Nico Weber wrote:
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>         On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Alp Toker <alp at nuanti.com
>         <mailto:alp at nuanti.com> <mailto:alp at nuanti.com <mailto:alp at nuanti.com>>>
>         wrote:
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>              On 15/07/2014 05:07, Nico Weber wrote:
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>                  On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Alp Toker <alp at nuanti.com
>         <mailto:alp at nuanti.com>
>                  <mailto:alp at nuanti.com <mailto:alp at nuanti.com>>
>         <mailto:alp at nuanti.com <mailto:alp at nuanti.com>
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>                  <mailto:alp at nuanti.com <mailto:alp at nuanti.com>>>> wrote:
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>                      Author: alp
>                      Date: Mon Jul 14 18:15:48 2014
>                      New Revision: 213010
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>                      URL:
>         http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-__project?rev=213010&view=rev
>         <http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?rev=213010&view=rev>
>                      Log:
>                      Define ENABLE_CLANG_ARCMT in the legacy build system too
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>                  As far as I know, make is just as supported as cmake, no?
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>              Not really. it hasn't seen any of the feature work CMake has for
>              at least a year. You only need to look at SVN logs to see all the
>              hard work and hours spent on the CMake setup to make it outclass
>              the other setup.
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>         Or to see that the CMake build is maintenance for some reason ;-)
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>              Platform support is limited compared to CMake, likewise
>              cross-compilation has been left behind thanks to the remarkable
>              CMake sub-invocation work. No compilation database generation,
>              meaning a poor experience for anyone trying to use tooling on the
>              codebase. Broken dependency scanning, you have to "touch" files or
>              risk getting miscompiles. And there are many Windows developers
>              contributing these days -- their enhancements basically only ever
>              get added to CMake while Makefiles are left with minimal build fixes.
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>              Then there's bit rot. Various clang tests aren't supported with
>              the 'makefiles' build -- they're simply not run -- the set of
>              installed headers isn't necessarily canonical with makefiles
>              either. Whenever I've pinged that makefiles need to track some
>              change or other, nobody's been too interested in following up. So
>              users really aren't getting the "full LLVM experience" with it at
>              this point, the 'makefiles' bots aren't getting full coverage etc.
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>              As far as I can tell it would take a large effort to get the
>              traditional build system on par with CMake at this point and
>              nobody's puting in the time to actually do that. While supported,
>              the old system definitely meets the definition of "legacy". Only
>              commits could have changed that, not any amount of hand waving or
>              arguing that it's still the default in "buildit" :-)
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>         Sounds like you prefer the cmake build,
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>     No, I mean it really isn't that well supported.
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> There's a buildbot that uses it, and people fix it if it breaks. (See e.g. this
> change.)
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> (Note that I'm not particularly attached to the make build – if the llvm project
> decides to drop make and only keep cmake around, I wouldn't argue against that.
> But that hasn't happened yet.)

ISTR hearing discussion about there being difficulty getting CMake to use the 
just-built-clang to build compiler_rt. Until that's resolved, that kind of makes 
CMake dead in the water for cross builds...


Jon
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>         but there wasn't some thread about this that I missed. So please just
>         say "in make" instead of "legacy build system" (it's more concise, too!)
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>     "in make"? That's a new one :-)
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> Maybe "with make"? "for make"? I don't speak English, but there's probably some
> verbal construct to express the sentiment I'm going for :-)
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>                      Modified:
>                          cfe/trunk/tools/libclang/__Makefile
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>                      Modified: cfe/trunk/tools/libclang/__Makefile
>                      URL:
>         http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-__project/cfe/trunk/tools/__libclang/Makefile?rev=213010&__r1=213009&r2=213010&view=diff
>         <http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project/cfe/trunk/tools/libclang/Makefile?rev=213010&r1=213009&r2=213010&view=diff>
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>           ==============================__==============================__==================
>                      --- cfe/trunk/tools/libclang/__Makefile (original)
>                      +++ cfe/trunk/tools/libclang/__Makefile Mon Jul 14 18:15:48
>         2014
>                      @@ -37,6 +37,10 @@ ifeq ($(HOST_OS), $(filter $(HOST_OS), L
>                               LLVMLibsOptions +=
>                  -Wl,-soname,lib$(LIBRARYNAME)$__(SHLIBEXT)
>                       endif
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>                      +ifeq ($(ENABLE_CLANG_ARCMT),1)
>                      +  CXX.Flags += -DCLANG_ENABLE_ARCMT
>                      +endif
>                      +
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>         ##===-------------------------__------------------------------__---------------===##
>                       # FIXME: This is copied from the 'lto' makefile.  Should
>                  we share
>                      this?
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>         ##===-------------------------__------------------------------__---------------===##
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