<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I disagree with this on the strongest possible terms. I have moderated mailing lists with tens of thousands of subscribers, and once you let the spammers in, they will proliferate.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-jcr<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2016, at 8:09 AM, David Blaikie <<a href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com" class="">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 8:04 AM, John Criswell via llvm-devmeeting <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:llvm-devmeeting@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank" class="">llvm-devmeeting@lists.llvm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear All,<br class="">
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My thoughts on the matter is that such an email is on topic provided that the person seeking employees is specifically looking for an employee for a position that uses LLVM or one of its related subprojects (e.g., Clang). My rationale is that we allow job postings on our lists for LLVM-related positions, and so this seems very similar. My problem with the post is that it does not specifically state that the person is seeking employees for an LLVM-related position; if we allow such posts, we should require that in the future.<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class="">+1 to all that, and that's generally been the stance in the past. (I believe Chris Lattner was called out a bit when he posted a Swift posting without much tie in to LLVM, for example - and that was later clarified/corrected to include the LLVM context in that posting)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That being said, is there any benefit to the /meeting/ list being publicly postable? Perhaps, like llvm-bugs, it should be announce-only & leave the discussion to the -dev lists? (most of the announcements are cross-posted to the dev lists anyway, so I assume the meeting list is just for those interested in the meeting, but not all the chatter?)</div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That said, I'd like to hear what others think. Is my reasoning reasonable, or should we take a hard line against such posts?<br class="">
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On 3/1/16 10:57 AM, Renato Golin via llvm-devmeeting wrote:<br class="">
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On 1 March 2016 at 15:11, John Randolph via llvm-devmeeting<br class="">
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I just got spam from one "Amanda Rayworth-Kiernan”, a headhunter who apparently sent her spam to this list. I haven’t checked whether the list has an explicit anti-spamming policy, but I’m sure I’m not the only person here who doesn’t want headhunters abusing the list in this manner.<br class="">
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I got the same email.<br class="">
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She is *very* specific, and targeting attendees of the next LLVM<br class="">
meeting, but doesn't seem to be recruiting for any particular<br class="">
position, but just asking for a coffee break chat. I take it this is<br class="">
more common in other less technical conferences, though.<br class="">
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I agree the list admin should at least send her a reminder of what the<br class="">
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cheers,<br class="">
--renato<br class="">
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