<div class="__aliyun_email_body_block"><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Hi Vassil,</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"> I got it. I agree that it is more effective to interact for a concret small topic. But there might be people couldn't attend due to many reasons.</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">So I guess it may be better to record the `TODO` left in the meeting a online document so that other people could work asynchronously.</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Thanks,</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Chuanqi</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div><blockquote style="margin-right:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">From:Vassil Vassilev <v.g.vassilev@gmail.com></span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Send Time:2021年10月30日(星期六) 00:13</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">To:chuanqi.xcq <yedeng.yd@linux.alibaba.com>; David Blaikie <dblaikie@gmail.com>; Anastasia Stulova <Anastasia.Stulova@arm.com></span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Cc:llvm-dev <llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org>; Clang Dev <cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org></span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Subject:Re: [llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] FIXME Hunt Round Table</span></div><div style="clear:both;"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Chuanqi,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> I imagined that people interested
will show up, at real time, and work on some pre-picked
items/areas. I think the benefit from the real time participation
is we could ask code owners for reviews/help. <br >
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> I agree that a Hackers Lab might have
been a better format but I do not think there is such a thing this
year. I am open to any suggestions how to a better format or make
this more efficient.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br >
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best, Vassil</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br >
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/29/21 7:08 PM, chuanqi.xcq wrote:<br >
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<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Hi
Vassil,</span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br >
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<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">
The proposal looks interesting. But I have a basic question
to ask.</span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">What
does a round table mean? Does it require us to attend a
meeting at real time.</span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Or
does it mean a project that people could interact with each
other more quickly?</span></div>
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<div style="clear:both;">Thanks,</div>
<div style="clear:both;">Chuanqi</div>
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</span></div>
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<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">From:llvm-dev
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org></a></span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Send
Time:2021年10月29日(星期五) 21:23</span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">To:Vassil
Vassilev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:v.g.vassilev@gmail.com" target="_blank"><v.g.vassilev@gmail.com></a>; David Blaikie
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com" target="_blank"><dblaikie@gmail.com></a></span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Cc:llvm-dev
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org></a>; Clang Dev
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org></a></span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Subject:Re:
[llvm-dev] [cfe-dev] FIXME Hunt Round Table</span></div>
<div style="clear:both;"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br >
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<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;">This
topic is very relevant indeed. I made a quick check in the
clang sources and this is the FIXME count for different
releases:</div>
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<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;">Release
#FIXME Increase<br >
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<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;">14
6101 12<br >
<div >13 6089 57</div>
<div >12 6032 242</div>
<div >11 5790 134</div>
<div >10 5656 320</div>
<div >9 5336 286</div>
<div >8 5050 53</div>
<div >7 4997 200</div>
<div >6 4797 157</div>
<div >5 4640 214</div>
4 4426</div>
<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;"><br >
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<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;">In
summary, the number of FIXMEs keeps growing... While I think
we should definitely address this I feel it might not be
easy within 1h slot. This could be an excellent task for a
Hacker Lab for example. I am not sure though whether it is
planned for this year?<br >
</div>
<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;"><br >
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<div class=" __aliyun_node_has_color __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16.0px;color:#000000;">Other
formats we can consider are:</div>
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<ul >
<li >Brainstorming our FIXME policy and what can be done to
avoid/reduce the growth. Should we start tagging FIXMEs
by a domain or severity level and etc to help find the
most relevant ones?<br >
</li>
<li >Build some tooling e.g. finding the oldest FIXMEs or
checking which domains have more FIXMEs. I would
particularly be interested in a way to classify them...
It's been a while I am trying to find a way to filter
OpenCL-specific FIXMEs. I think finding relevant FIXME
could be a good first step forward. <br >
</li>
</ul>
<div ><br >
</div>
<div >Overall I would be happy to join this session in
whichever format as soon as it is in reasonable enough
timing for me (AM hours would work best!).</div>
<div ><br >
</div>
<div ><br >
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<div >Cheers,</div>
<div >Anastasia<br >
</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><span class=" __aliyun_node_has_color" style="font-size:15.0px;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;"><b >From:</b>
cfe-dev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cfe-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><cfe-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org></a> on behalf
of David Blaikie via cfe-dev
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org></a><br >
<b >Sent:</b> 28 October 2021 20:55<br >
<b >To:</b> Vassil Vassilev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:v.g.vassilev@gmail.com" target="_blank"><v.g.vassilev@gmail.com></a><br >
<b >Cc:</b> llvm-dev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org></a>; Clang
Dev <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org></a><br >
<b >Subject:</b> Re: [cfe-dev] [llvm-dev] FIXME Hunt Round
Table</span>
<div > </div>
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<div >
<div >I like the idea, and would be happy to help in an
advisory capacity - answering folks questions about
whether a given FIXME is easy/hard (as far as I know) and
where to go to maybe fix it. But doubt I have the
motivation to be driving/working on fixes myself,
unfortunately.</div>
<br >
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<div class="x_gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 3:05 AM
Vassil Vassilev via llvm-dev <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>>
wrote:<br >
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Hi folks,<br >
<br >
I was thinking to submit a round table focusing on
resolving FIXMEs <br >
in the codebase of clang and llvm. The idea is FIXME
hunters to bring a <br >
laptop and start hunting down the 13K FIXMEs in both
codebases.<br >
<br >
Ideally we would invite code owners to provide key
insights and to <br >
possibly review patches quickly.<br >
<br >
I am wondering if that sounds fun and are there people
willing to engage?<br >
<br >
Best, Vassil<br >
<br >
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