<div dir="ltr">tl;dr: What if we used only the base name of templates in the DW_AT_name field for function and class templates (eg: "vector" instead of "vector<int, std::allocator<int>>")?<br><br><font size="4">Context:</font><br>We (at Google) have been seeing some significant DWARF growth in binaries lately due to increased use of libraries like Eigen and TensorFlow that use expression templates.<br><br>This includes some cases where the debug_str.dwo section has exceeded the DWARF32 limit (& the binutils dwp tool silently wrote overflowed indexes into the debug_str_offsets.dwo section, unfortunately - leading to corrupted/garbled names in backtraces) & most of the growth is from the demangled names of complicated/large expression templates.<br><br><font size="4">Options:</font><br>One solution would be to move to DWARF64 - though that does make DWARF overall larger, which is an unfortunate cost that would be nice to avoid.<br><br>Another might be to rely solely on linkage names (add linkage names to types), since mangled names generally reduce a lot of the duplication - though in some cases it's not a matter of duplication within a single name, but possibly many distinct types used as template parameters - though those types may also be used in other names (& mangled names have no sharing across names).<br><br>Compression doesn't help, since the offsets are into the uncompressed data.<br><br><font size="4">Main idea:<br></font>What if templates instead only encoded the base name, such as "vector" (rather than "vector<int, std::allocator<int>>")? The full name could still be reconstructed from the DW_TAG_template_type_parameters (non-type template parameters would be more difficult, and we'd need to add template parameters to template declarations - functionality we have, but is only enabled for SCE today)).<br><br>This could significantly reduce debug info size (in some worst-cases I've seen this lead to a 50% reduction in the uncompressed size of .debug_str.dwo in a dwp file, for instance - probably less exciting if the data was compressed - but gives a sense of the headroom available before this limit will be reached again).<br><br>Also has the nice property that it's not a new format or encoding that might break existing consumers immediately (DWARF64, for instance isn't widely implemented to my knowledge, so many consumers would need to be fixed before they could parse any of it) - if a consumer doesn't know, it'll still see a name, just not the most fully descriptive/specific name it could be. For a symbolizer this is probably fairly low cost - users would find it more difficult, but not totally useless to get a simple template function name.<br><br>As it happens, it seems GDB is already built to cope with this situation - it can print the real name of the type and can even correctly match up two distinct type declarations between translation units by correctly matching their template parameters.<br><br>GDB Example:<br>a.h:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">template<typename T></span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">struct t1 { T t = sizeof(T); };</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">void f(t1<int> &p1, t1<short> *&p2);</span></p></blockquote>
a.cpp:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">#include "a.h"</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">int main() {</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>t1<int> v1;</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>t1<short> *v2 = nullptr;</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>t1<bool> *v3 = nullptr;</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>f(v1, v2);</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">}</span></p></blockquote>
b.cpp:<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">#include "a.h"</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">void f(t1<int> &p1, t1<short> *&p2) {</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>static t1<short> v2;</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>p2 = &v2;</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">}</span></p></div></blockquote><div><br>// using a clang modified to produce simple template names, and <br>// to include template parameters on declarations <br>// (-Xclang -debug-forward-template-params)<br>$ clang++ a.cpp b.cpp -g<br>$ llvm-dwarfdump a.out (glossing over some details)<br>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><font color="#000000"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">DW_TAG</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">_compile_unit</span></font></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo"><font color="#000000"><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">DW_AT_name</span><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space" style=""> </span>("a.cpp")</span></font></p>
<p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_structure_type</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t1")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_template_type_parameter</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x00000098 "int")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("T")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_member</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
</p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x00000098 "int")<br>
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_structure_type</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t1")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_declaration <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(true)</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_template_type_parameter</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x000000e2 "short")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("T")<br>
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_structure_type</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t1")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_declaration <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(true)</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_template_type_parameter</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x000000fd "bool")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("T")<br><br>
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">DW_TAG_compile_unit</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("b.cpp")<br>
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_structure_type</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t1")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_template_type_parameter</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x0000019e "short")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("T")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_member</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font:11px Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
</p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x0000019e "short")<br>
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_structure_type</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("t1")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_declaration <span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(true)</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_TAG_template_type_parameter</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_type<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>(0x000001b9 "int")</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>DW_AT_name<span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>("T")<br>$ gdb ./a.out<br></span></p></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) start</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) ptype v1</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">type = struct t1<int> [with T = int] {</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>T t;</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">}</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) ptype v2</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">type = struct t1<short> [with T = short] {</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span>T t;</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">} *</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) ptype v3</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">type = struct t1<bool> {</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p2" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(116,116,116)"><span class="gmail-s2" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"><incomplete type></span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">} *<br>
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) ptype v1.t</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">type = int</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) ptype v2->t</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">type = short</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">(gdb) ptype v3->t</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">
</span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">There is no member named t.</span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">
</span></p></div><div><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail-s1" style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">
<br></span></p><p class="gmail-p1" style="margin:0px;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></p>So in this example we have one instantiation (t1<int>) declared in the first CU and defined in the second, one instantation (t1<short>) declared in the first and defined in the second, and a third instantiation (t1<bool>) declared in the first and not defined anywhere.<br><br>GDB has correctly rendered the type names, despite lacking the template parameter lists being in the DW_AT_name - and has correctly associated the definitions with the declarations despite the DW_AT_name being ambiguous, by using the DW_TAG_template_type_parameters.<br><br>lldb doesn't cope with this sort of DWARF currently - it has a bunch of assumptions about the names of template instantiations that'll need to be fixed before it can consume this sort of thing.<br><br>I haven't tested a wide number of symbolizers, but I assume they'll generally need some work too.<br><br>So... how's this sound to everyone? An idea worth pursuing? Concerns/questions/etc.<br><br>I don't expect this to become the default for LLVM in the short term at least - but under a flag for those whose consumers can handle it (/maybe/ we do it under debugger tuning for gdb, since it seems OK with it - but that might be a bit stronger than we want to do under the default tuning, since it's really broken for lldb, not just a little bit broken).<br><br>- Dave<br><br></div></div>