<div dir="ltr"><div>That sounds like better timing. We'll start our own renaming process for Android once this is available in December, so I wasn't too worried about us getting everything in order. I was more concerned for smaller downstream LLVM developers who might not have the same availability/resources to adapt. Starting 2021 out with a bunch of failing infrastructure doesn't seem pleasant, so hopefully this will be better for them as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Steve</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:56 AM Keane, Erich <<a href="mailto:erich.keane@intel.com">erich.keane@intel.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Stephen, does that help you out?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mike Edwards <<a href="mailto:mike@sqlby.me" target="_blank" class="cremed">mike@sqlby.me</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Keane, Erich <<a href="mailto:erich.keane@intel.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">erich.keane@intel.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Stephen Hines <<a href="mailto:srhines@google.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">srhines@google.com</a>>; llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank" class="cremed">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>>; clang developer list <<a href="mailto:cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank" class="cremed">cfe-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>>; Mehdi AMINI <<a href="mailto:joker.eph@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="cremed">joker.eph@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [llvm-dev] Renaming The Default Branch<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ah, I see what you mean. I would have no problem with January 7<sup>th</sup> being pushed back a while if that helps out your transition. Would that be possible Mike?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The main reason for holding such a tight schedule is we do not want this to drag on forever. I will freely admit, in my zeal to get this project completed, I overlooked the Holiday aspect. My apologies. So, how about we say we will leave
the 'master' branch available in read-only mode until January 28th, 2021? This should give everyone plenty of time to make the transition.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 16, 2020 6:03 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> We will lock the master branch and change it to be readonly (with the exception of llvmbot)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">^ This is the part that will likely break other users, and it seems that `master` will only get updated from December 7 -> January 7. After that, it's gone.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Hines via llvm-dev<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 16, 2020 5:14 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm very supportive of this switch, but I do think that the timing leaves a bit to be desired. Many people will be taking time off for the holidays at the end of the year, and forcing
a change to be complete by week 1 of the new year (since January 7 is part of our first work-week in 2021), might make things more difficult than they should be. This is also problematic because lots of organizations might be subject to production freezes
during this time, so they won't be able to do as much testing as they would want before having to switch over. Could we perhaps push back the end date by 2-4 weeks to ensure that nobody has to work through the holidays and/or have an extra stressful first
work-week of 2021?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"""If you haven’t renamed your default branch yet, consider waiting until
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<p class="MsoNormal">None of the items seemed particularly helpful. The main feature I'd have wanted would have a server side mirroring of main to master, but we can emulate this with a github action
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<p class="MsoNormal">and there was strong consensus from LLVM Developers’ that the LLVM Project should also rename our master branch as well. Now that<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>This change will occur at **06:00GMT on Monday December 7, 2020** (time is **GMT**, please adjust for your local timezone).</b><br>
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To make this as easy as possible we plan to do the following <b>prior to November 20, 2020</b>:<br>
* Create a new branch named 'test-main' on the llvm-project repository<br>
* This branch will be read-only except for the llvmbot account<br>
* Setup a GitHub action to mirror commits from 'master' to ‘test-main' automatically<br>
* Allow the configuration to soak for a few days to ensure everything works<br>
* Create a new branch named “main” on the llvm-project repository<br>
* This branch will be readonly initially<br>
* Reuse the previous Github Action to mirror master to main<br>
* This configuration will stay in place until cutover takes place on Dec. 7 <br>
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* We will lock the master branch and change it to be readonly (with the exception of llvmbot)<br>
* Switch the GitHub action to mirror commits from the new main branch back to the old master branch<br>
* Make a few test commits to ensure the GitHub action is functioning as expected<br>
* Open the main branch to commits from community members<br>
* In parallel we will begin to work through the rest of the llvm organization repositories to update branch names as well<br>
* We will update the developer policy to reflect the change in workflow<br>
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<b>On January 7, 2021</b>:<br>
* We will remove the ‘master’ branch from all repositories in the llvm organization<br>
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As we work towards December 7, 2020 we are going to set up a test of this system on a fork of the llvm-project<br>
in order to simulate the cutover. If we encounter any issues we will update the community on llvm-dev.<br>
We expect the llvm-project repository to be unavailable to developers for approximately 1 hour while the<br>
switch is made. Lockout will occur promptly at 06:00GMT on the 7th. Certainly if we finish sooner, we will<br>
update llvm-dev to let everyone know the repository is available for use once again.<br>
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We know this has been a long process and we want to thank everyone for their patience. We look forward to getting<br>
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Respectfully,<br>
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Mike Edwards<br>
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