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<p><font face="Hack Nerd Font Mono">We went with old school
solutions, less sexy I know, but seems to be effective.</font></p>
@Renato, do you still feel there is much spam?
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<p>P.S.<font face="Hack Nerd Font Mono"> I'm going to switch to your
ML approach once ready ;)</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/25/20 7:11 PM, Stephen
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Seems like a useful machine-learning recognition task.... Lots of data...
useful to automate... Low cost of false-negatives...
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I'll comment from the perspective of someone that is in the Mesa,
#dri-devel, #radeon channels myself and have watched their behaviour over
the years. This is a real person that spams a load of information into a
channel about their understanding of how hardware works.
I have no idea what their goal is for spamming this information, could be
some desire for acceptance from perceived smartness. Or something as simple
as wanting to be hired for their "brilliance". Hard to tell.
A major issue with their personality is that they will retaliate against
anyone that tries to stop their ranting, and they become hostile with their
phrasing very quickly because of it. Just check the logs for them
retaliating against anyone that has kickbanned them.
Another issue is that depending on their mood of the day, they may be
entirely lost to any form of reasoning, which makes it difficult for any
communication.
So just to reiterate, they are a real person but are difficult to deal
with.
On that note, they aren't completely impossible to work with in some
cases, it just might require accepting getting attacked for a few weeks.
I'm a channel operator in one of the Mesa related IRC channels and have
had success in communicating with them that their behaviour is not
conducive to the environment that we were attempting to create in the
channel.
This took a bit of coaxing on their "good" days, and communicating with
them while being attacked for around a month on end. At the end of this
month-long attack and communication I was able to get them to understand
that they aren't welcome to the channel.
They no longer enter the channel that I moderate; I managed to get through
to them on some level at least.
Sadly this sort of baby sitting of a user shouldn't be required and
requiring some thick skin to get through their harsh comments is difficult.
More moderation will "work" but while they are rampaging, you're going to
still have to watch the channel and you'll get a few lines of harassing
text while an op takes a bit of time to see them (and sometimes even
perceive them, on "good" days they make comments that make some sense
initially).
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:03 PM Tom Stellard via llvm-dev <
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On 06/16/2020 07:27 AM, Renato Golin via llvm-dev wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 15:06, Joerg Sonnenberger via llvm-dev
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I also see little evidence that it would fix the problem of someone
having too much time on their hand and wants to be a nuisance.
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AFAICS, this is not the problem.
The nicks are clearly randomly generated by smashing words together
and the content seems to be what comes out of a language model after
reading angry Facebook posts.
Registering is quick and easy and would filter 99% of the automated
accounts. Not 100% and not the people with too much time in their
hands. But those, nothing will.
It's like a bicycle lock: the bigger your lock, the more likely the
thief will steal someone else's bike. But someone wanting *your* bike
will take it, no matter the lock.
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I'm fairly certain that this is the same person that has been spamming
the #dri-devel and #radeon channels on freenode for years. The pattern
of comments is they same and I've seen them mention people in comments on
#llvm who only join those other channels. #dri-devel requires users to
identify
with the server and also uses extbans, but that hasn't really helped.
I'm not sure how to solve this, but I think having more ops
(spread across all timezones) would help.
-Tom
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