<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Daniel Sanders <<a href="mailto:daniel_l_sanders@apple.com">daniel_l_sanders@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 6, 2020, at 14:29, David Blaikie via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 5:58 AM Zakk <<a href="mailto:zakk0610@gmail.com" target="_blank">zakk0610@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">David Blaikie <<a href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com" target="_blank">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>> 於 2020年1月6日 週一 下午2:23寫道:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If this is something that can vary per file in a compilation and resolve correctly when one object file is built with one ABI and another object file is built with a different ABI (that seems to be antithetical to the concept of "ABI" Though) - then it should be a subtarget feature.<br><br>ABI is generally something that has to be agreed upon across object files - so it wouldn't make sense to link two object files with two different ABIs. What's going on here that makes that valid in this case?</div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Are you talking about that "<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">[mips] Pass ABI name via -target-abi instead of target-features"?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>I'm not talking about that patch in particular (I have no specific knowledge of mips or its implementation) - but speaking about the general design of LLVM's subtarget features.<br><br>Might be interesting to know why that change was made & may help explain what's going on here.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It's been a while so I don't remember the detail but IIRC one of the reasons was that mips had a feature bit per ABI and had a lot of duplicated code sanity checking that only one bit was enabled and deriving the ABI from the feature bits. The -target-abi option already existed and using that prevented the possibility of having more than one ABI selected.</div><div><br></div><div>There was a lot of code (some of which didn't have access to target features) in the backend that tried to derive the ABI from the arch component of the triple (e.g. mips64 => n64 ABI) even though there were multiple possible ABI's for each arch (mips64 => o32, n32, or n64 ABI's) and there isn't a canonical choice for any given triple (it varies between linux distributions and toolchains in general). Settling on -target-abi allowed us to sort out the inconsistencies in the backends opinion of what the selected ABI was. It also allowed us to move the selection of the ABI into the frontend where disagreements between distributions/toolchains on what each triple means was easier to deal with.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Is this something that can vary per function in a program? (that seems confusing to me - ABI is usually, sort of by definition, the thing that all parts of the program have to agree with (at least on either side of any function call - I suppose different functions could have different ABIs as long as the function declarations carried ABI information so callers could cooperate, etc)) It sounds to me like that's what Zakk is suggesting/grappling with.<br><br>If it can vary per function, then the ABI information shouldn't be used outside the per-function context (ie: no global variables/other output could depend on the ABI because which function's ABI would it depend on?).<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">I don't know WHY -target-abi is passing via different option, not via -mattr (subtarget feature)</span><br></div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">maybe usually subtarget feature is used to </span>manages different specific ISA.</div><div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 10:04 PM Zakk via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all.<div><br><div>There are two steps in LTO codegen so the problem is how to pass ABI info into LTO code generator. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The easier way is pass -target-abi via option to LTO codegen, but there is linking issue when linking two bitcodes generated by different -mabi option. (see <a href="https://reviews.llvm.org/D71387#1792169" target="_blank">https://reviews.llvm.org/D71387#1792169</a>)</div><div><br></div><div><div>Usually the ABI info for a file is derived from target triple, mcpu or -mabi, but in RISC-V, target-abi is only derived from -mabi and -mattr option, so the one of solutions is encoding target-abi in IR via LLVM module flags metadata.</div><div><br></div><div>But there is an another issue in assembler. In current LLVM design, there is no mechanism to extract info from IR before AsmBackend construction, so I use some little weird approach to init target-abi option before construct AsmBackend[1] or reassign target-abi option in
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and do some hack in backend[2].</div><div><br></div><div>1. <a href="https://reviews.llvm.org/D72245#change-sHyISc6hOqcy" target="_blank">https://reviews.llvm.org/D72245#change-sHyISc6hOqcy</a> (see llc.cpp<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI","Segoe UI Emoji","Segoe UI Symbol",Lato,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:700">)</span></div><div>2. <a href="https://reviews.llvm.org/D72246" target="_blank">https://reviews.llvm.org/D72246</a> (see RISCVAsmBackend.h)</div><div><br></div><div>I think [1] and [2] are not good enough, the other ideals like<br></div><div><br></div><div>3. encode target abi info in triple name. ex. riscv64-unknown-elf-lp64d</div><div>4. encode target-abi into in target-feature (maybe it's not a good ideal because mips reverted this approach </div><div>before. <a href="http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?view=revision&revision=227583" target="_blank">http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?view=revision&revision=227583</a>)<br></div><div><br></div><div>5. users should pass target-abi themselves. (append -Wl,-plugin-opt=-target-abi=ipl32f when compiling with
-mabi=ilp32f)<br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>Is it a good idea to encode target-abi into bitcode? </div><div>If yes, is there another good approach to fix AsmBackend issue?</div><div>I’d appreciate <span>any</span> help or <span>suggestions</span>. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Best regards,<br>Kuan-Hsu<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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