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<li><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I think there's a psychological difference of a mailing list vs. slack/discord. Slack/discord maybe feels like being in a group of your friends and asking a casual question.
A mailing list feels like being in a class and raising your hand to interrupt for a question. </span><br>
</li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">An email is going to go to everyone on the list. The slack/discord message is only going to go to who is in the channel at the moment (not technically...but usually I don't
read the history of everything I missed when not in a channel).</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">It's a positive for a mailing list that you spend the time thinking about what you're going to say as mentioned before...but it also adds a burden for the poster. Some peoples
learning style is to talk-it-through, and because the expectation for a mailing list is that you're going to put a lot of thought into your question, it discourages that.<br>
</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Having a (more or less) immediate back-and-forth on a slack/discord type medium has an entirely different "vibe" than a mailing list.</span></li></ul>
<div>Ultimately, both styles of communication are valuable...especially if they both have searchable histories.</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> llvm-dev <llvm-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org> on behalf of Stefan Teleman via llvm-dev <llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 18, 2019 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> LLVM Dev <llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [llvm-dev] RFC: Moving toward Discord and Discourse for LLVM's discussions</font>
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<div class="PlainText">On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:55 AM David Chisnall via llvm-dev<br>
<llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org> wrote:<br>
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> On 18/11/2019 16:39, Stefan Teleman via llvm-dev wrote:<br>
> > I can't recall an instance when I had difficulty using, or was<br>
> > intimidated by, email, for saying something on a mailing list.<br>
><br>
> Subscribing to a mailing list, particularly one as high-traffic as<br>
> LLVM-Dev, is a high friction activity. I was contributing to LLVM for<br>
> several years before I subscribed to llvm-dev, because I didn't want to<br>
> deal with the traffic volume (filtering is a lot better now, but having<br>
> to set up a mail filter adds another step for subscribing). The only<br>
> open source projects that I interact with via mailing lists are ones<br>
> where I am already an contributor.<br>
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In other words, the friction coefficient is directly proportional to<br>
the verbosity of the mailing list.<br>
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llvm-dev is very verbose. I.e. high "friction" coefficient. So are<br>
cfe-dev and llvm-commits. O-Well. That's how they are.<br>
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I don't quite see how some sort of pretty Web UI will reduce the<br>
friction coefficient. It might introduce a new, "annoyance"<br>
coefficient, because of the added noise of pretty formatting, emojis,<br>
color quoting, and all kinds of other extraneous - and unnecessary -<br>
decorations that have very little to do with the information being<br>
conveyed.<br>
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-- <br>
Stefan Teleman<br>
stefan.teleman@gmail.com<br>
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