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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks! Being a "user" of GitHub projects does not require having a GitHub account (having downloaded some myself, and not having a GitHub account whose name
or associated email address I can remember). But if it's commonplace to require a GitHub account in order to file a bug against any of these (I don't know, I've never tried), then at least the proposal is following common practice and not something unusual.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">FTR, I would dispute pretty much all of your original Point 1, as well as the later statement that "this is why we're moving the code to GitHub" but that's
all not really relevant to the TL;DR of your proposal, which I might summarize this way:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">clangd is (about to be) hosted and available on GitHub, so<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">it ought to present itself in ways that GitHub projects usually do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The move-to-GitHub discussion is explicitly NOT addressing trying to move the overall bug-tracking system; but you might have a valid reason for popping up
a separate one for clangd, and now I understand what you're driving at (IIUC, please correct as needed).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--paulr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Sam McCall [mailto:sammccall@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 22, 2018 1:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robinson, Paul<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Manuel Klimek; anton@korobeynikov.info; LLVM Dev; clangd-dev@lists.llvm.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [llvm-dev] [clangd-dev] Subprojects, GitHub, and the Monorepo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:32 PM via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I haven't seen a clear description of who clangd users *are*.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good question!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The target audience is all C++ developers using editors where external IDE features make sense. (vim, emacs, vscode, sublime... not visual studio or notepad).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The argument seems to be premised on "clangd users are active contributors to some other GitHub project
and therefore want/expect a familiar experience for interacting with clangd providers." Is that actually your target user base?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Replace "active contributors to" with "users of", and that's a pretty reasonable estimate in the near-term.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(I do hope we eventually reach some users who have never ventured beyond "apt-get install", but that's further out)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are certainly large non-GitHub-based open-source projects out there in the world. It's your
prerogative to hand-wave them away, but you want to understand that you are in fact doing that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">--paulr</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The assumption is not that the user's primary work is done on Github, but that they've interacted with some project that is hosted there.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm sure that's not everyone, but it's an awful lot of people.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers, Sam<o:p></o:p></p>
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