<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 4:46 PM David Woodhouse <<a href="mailto:dwmw2@infradead.org">dwmw2@infradead.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, 2018-02-07 at 00:36 +0000, Chandler Carruth wrote:<br>
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> ><br>
> > That would be __x86_indirect_thunk but the kernel doesn't use it.<br>
> > We use -mindirect-branch-register and only ever expect the compiler<br>
> > to use the register versions which are CET-compatible.<br>
> ><br>
> > However, in at least one case in the 32-bit kernel we do emit the<br>
> > old ret-equivalent retpoline inline, because there literally wasn't<br>
> > a single register we could use (yay x86).<br>
> ><br>
> > I would definitely consider ditching our use of -mindirect-thunk-<br>
> > register with GCC for 32-bit and exporting the<br>
> > __x86_indirect_thunk, to be consistent if that's what clang wants<br>
> > to do.<br>
> ><br>
> :: sigh :: is there no way to change the name?<br>
><br>
> We use a "push" suffix to reduce ambiguity about what convention is<br>
> expected here.... But I guess we can just use the base name if that's<br>
> already shipped.<br>
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It has indeed already shipped in GCC 7.3; sorry. It had no<br>
disambiguation in its name because it was the original retpoline,<br>
before we realised that CET would break things.<br>
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The other thing to keep an eye on is the *return* thunk, which might<br>
end up being needed on Skylake-era CPUs. See the thread at<br>
<a href="https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/2/4/147" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/2/4/147</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm strongly of the opinion that I think Arjan expressed:</div><div><br></div><div>- retpoline alone is probably fine with sufficient RSB stuffing patches in the kernel</div><div>- if some folks are worried about the security risk here and running on SKX, they should use IBRS.</div><div><br></div><div>Given the speed of IBRS on SKX and the complexity & runtime hit of thunking ret, I really don't see a good motivation for us teaching the compiler how to do this.</div></div></div>