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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for pointing to RTTI. Unfortunately, you are right. When mixing RTTI and non-RTTI objects, visibility of type_info gets meaningless for detecting final
classes. And I presume there is no way to check at link-time if there are any objects without RTTI…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Looks like hidden symbol visibility is indeed the only way to get proper devirtualization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#525252">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#525252">Nikolai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_____replyseparator"></a><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Peter Collingbourne [mailto:peter@pcc.me.uk]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 6, 2017 8:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bozhenov, Nikolai <nikolai.bozhenov@intel.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> llvm-dev <llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org>; Gainullin, Artur <artur.gainullin@intel.com>; Elovikov, Andrei <andrei.elovikov@intel.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Question about visibility analysis for whole program devirtualization pass<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There are two problems with that. Firstly, this will only work on classes compiled with RTTI. Secondly, this analysis would produce a false negative if the base class is compiled with RTTI and the derived class is compiled without RTTI.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 6, 2017 08:48, "Bozhenov, Nikolai" <<a href="mailto:nikolai.bozhenov@intel.com" target="_blank">nikolai.bozhenov@intel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Peter,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks for the reply. I agree that the base class vtable may be not referenced by a derived class.
However, the vtable of a derived class has to reference its parent type_info, and so having type_info internalized means that the class is final, doesn’t it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#525252">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#525252">Nikolai</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Peter Collingbourne [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:peter@pcc.me.uk" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">peter@pcc.me.uk</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 6, 2017 4:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gainullin, Artur <</span><a href="mailto:artur.gainullin@intel.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">artur.gainullin@intel.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</span></a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Question about visibility analysis for whole program devirtualization pass</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Unfortunately, making a visibility analysis at that level would not always give correct results because the symbol information provided by the linker is insufficient to make determinations
about which type hierarchies are closed at LTO time. For example, consider a main program with a plugin interface class defined like this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">where plugins in external shared objects implement the plugin interface by deriving from PluginInterface. The problem is that deriving from PluginInterface in a shared object does
not necessarily result in a reference to any of the symbols associated with PluginInterface, including its vtable. This would mean that even if plugin shared objects are linked into the main program at link time, LTO may be able to internalize all symbols
relating to PluginInterface (and if plugins are dynamically loaded with dlopen(), the linker has absolutely no opportunity to see references to PluginInterface symbols). If we relied only on internalization information, this would cause the analysis to wrongly
consider PluginInterface to be closed in the main program.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Gainullin, Artur <<a href="mailto:artur.gainullin@intel.com" target="_blank">artur.gainullin@intel.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have a question about whole program devirtualization pass. According to my understanding devirtualization is performed only for the classes that have hidden LTO visibility and
this visibility is controlled by attributes in the source level or command line options. So visibility analysis is currently performed only in the front-end. But LLVM has LTO internalization pass that uses information from the linker to mark symbols as internal
if it is possible. Have you ever considered to make an analysis of visibility at this level (after internalization pass)? Or it is not possible for some reasons?<o:p></o:p></p>
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