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  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><p class="">Hi Matthias,</p><p class="">>Jingu: Why do you even want a configuration that has
      LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP but does not have asserts enabled at the same
      time?</p><p class="">My colleague and I am doing custom project using clang/llvm. We
      have always wanted to use the IR Value's dump() to check our
      implementation correctly with Debug, Release and another builds.
      We thought the LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP is for it.<br class=""></p></div></div></blockquote><div>dump() is meant as a helper for people using a debugger and we tend not to use it in code.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>There are usually alternatives that you could use in code like `Value->print(errs());`...</div><div><br class=""></div><div>- Matthias</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><p class="">
    </p><p class="">If Chris fixes <a href="http://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32283" class="">http://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32283</a>,
      I will be happy with it. :)<br class="">
    </p><p class="">Thanks,</p><p class="">JinGu Kang</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/04/2017 20:54, Matthias Braun
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      <div class="">Jingu: Why do you even want a configuration that has
        LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP but does not have asserts enabled at the same
        time?</div>
      <div class="">If this is just about getting a compiler fast enough
        to handle big code, most people seem to settle on
        CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release, LLVM_ENABLE_ASSERTIONS=1 (aka.
        "RelWithAsserts"). </div>
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          <div class="">On Apr 10, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Mehdi Amini <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mehdi.amini@apple.com" class="">mehdi.amini@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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                  <div class="">On Apr 10, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Matthias
                    Braun <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mbraun@apple.com" class="">mbraun@apple.com</a>>
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                      <div class="">The situation is not consistent. Yes
                        there are several places where we have the #if
                        in the headers however there are far more cases
                        where it is not. Some points here:</div>
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                      <div class="">- This whole
                        LLVM_DUMP_FUNCTION/LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP is about
                        enabling the linker to strip (or not strip) the
                        dumping function in release (debug) builds.</div>
                      <div class="">- For this it doesn't matter whether
                        you have a declaration in the header or not, so
                        it seems we standardized on not having it there.</div>
                      <div class="">- Things are 100% consistent so we
                        sometimes have #ifs anyway.</div>
                      <div class="">- In case of templates we not only
                        have the declaration but also an implementation
                        in the header and need the #if there</div>
                      <div class="">- A similar problem arises in cases
                        where the dump function was declared virtual and
                        ends up in the vtable</div>
                      <div class="">- If you ask me then we shouldn't
                        have LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP and just rely on NDEBUG to
                        keep things simple... (We're in this strange
                        state anyway where LLVM_ENABLE_DEBUG isn't even
                        exposed as a cmake option).</div>
                      <div class="">- Either way, putting
                        LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP into config.h would make the
                        status-quo more consistent.</div>
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                <div class="">Using the config.h instead of the NDEBUG
                  makes it robust against client using NDEBUG
                  differently from what LLVM was built with. This seems
                  really better to me.</div>
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        <div class="">Maybe we should rather go and remove the whole
          LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP setting as we probably will not set up a bot
          to it while at the same time we probably can't keep this
          consistently in a working state...</div>
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        <div class="">- Matthias</div>
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                <div class="">— </div>
                <div class="">Mehdi</div>
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                          <div class="">On Apr 10, 2017, at 12:17 PM,
                            Chris Bieneman <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:beanz@apple.com" class="">beanz@apple.com</a>>
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                              have definitions like:
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                                <div class="">#if !defined(NDEBUG) ||
                                  defined(LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP)</div>
                                <div class="">  void dump() const;</div>
                                <div class="">#endif</div>
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                              <div class="">Would it make sense to
                                modify the build system to define
                                LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP in config.h on debug
                                builds?</div>
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                              <div class="">Then we could wrap dump
                                methods just based on LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP
                                instead of two variables.</div>
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                              <div class="">-Chris</div>
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                                    <div class="">On Apr 10, 2017, at
                                      1:34 PM, Robinson, Paul via
                                      llvm-dev <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" class="">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>>
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                                        On Behalf Of Mehdi<br class="">
                                        Amini via llvm-dev<br class="">
                                        Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017
                                        2:26 PM<br class="">
                                        To: Matthias Braun<br class="">
                                        Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" class="">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jingu@codeplay.com" class="">jingu@codeplay.com</a><br class="">
                                        Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] Question
                                        about LLVM Building Error with
                                        "-<br class="">
                                        DLLVM_ENABLE_DUMP" and
                                        "RelWithDebInfo"<br class="">
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                                        <br class="">
                                        <blockquote type="cite" class="">On
                                          Apr 7, 2017, at 4:45 PM,
                                          Matthias Braun via llvm-dev
                                          <llvm-<br class="">
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                                        wrote:<br class="">
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                                          I think the idea is to keep
                                          NDEBUG out of headers when
                                          possible. So I<br class="">
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                                        think this should better be
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                                          -#ifndef NDEBUG<br class="">
                                           void dumpUses(unsigned RegNo)
                                          const;<br class="">
                                          -#endif<br class="">
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                                          to be inline with various
                                          other dumpers (like
                                          MachineInstr::dump(),<br class="">
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                                        Pass::dump(), …)<br class="">
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                                        I’m fine with leaving methods
                                        there, but we need to be able to
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                                        fields in structure.<br class="">
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                                        to me this has come up in the
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                                        prevents building a debug-mode
                                        front-end against a release-mode
                                        LLVM.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                                        !important;" class="">(Why is
                                        that a valid use-case?  If I
                                        have an out-of-tree front end,
                                        and</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                                        one with a different license, I
                                        might well prefer to download</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                                        releases rather than keep
                                        up-to-date with a live tree that
                                        I</span><br style="font-family:
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                                        myself.  IIRC we do not provide
                                        debug-mode downloads, therefore<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                                        that affects struct size/layout
                                        will break this use-case.)</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                                        We already have
                                        ABI_BREAKING_CHECKS for instance
                                        to this end, the naming<br class="">
                                        isn’t completely in line with
                                        LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP but could be
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                                        —<br class="">
                                        Mehdi<br class="">
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                                          If that works for you please
                                          submit a patch to phabricator
                                          as described<br class="">
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                                          - Matthias<br class="">
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                                          <blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 6, 2017, at
                                            7:38 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jingu@codeplay.com" class="">jingu@codeplay.com</a>
                                            via llvm-dev <llvm-<br class="">
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                                        wrote:<br class="">
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                                            Hi All,<br class="">
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                                            I have tried to build llvm
                                            tip as following:<br class="">
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                                            -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS:STRING="-DLLVM_ENABLE_DUMP"
                                            -<br class="">
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                                        DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=RelWithDebInfo
                                        ../llvm<br class="">
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                                            After running 'make', I have
                                            got error messages like
                                            below.<br class="">
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llvm/lib/CodeGen/MachineRegisterInfo.cpp:462:67: error: no ‘void<br class="">
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llvm::MachineRegisterInfo::dumpUses(unsigned int) const’ member function<br class="">
                                        declared in class
                                        ‘llvm::MachineRegisterInfo’<br class="">
                                        <blockquote type="cite" class="">
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llvm/lib/CodeGen/MachineScheduler.cpp:2331:57: error: no ‘void<br class="">
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llvm::SchedBoundary::dumpScheduledState()’ member function declared in<br class="">
                                        class ‘llvm::SchedBoundary’<br class="">
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                                            ...<br class="">
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                                            It seems the
                                            "defined(LLVM_ENABLE_DUMP)"
                                            is needed on several<br class="">
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                                        locations. How do you think
                                        about it? I have attached the
                                        diff file about<br class="">
                                        the locations for reference.  If
                                        I missed something, please let
                                        me know.<br class="">
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                                            Thanks,<br class="">
                                            <br class="">
                                            JinGu Kang<br class="">
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