<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:41 AM, vivek pandya <<a href="mailto:vivekvpandya@gmail.com" class="">vivekvpandya@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Mehdi Amini<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mehdi.amini@apple.com" target="_blank" class="">mehdi.amini@apple.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><span class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:12 AM, vivek pandya <<a href="mailto:vivekvpandya@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">vivekvpandya@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80); font-size: 13px;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hello LLVM Developers,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have a thought to improve IPRA and I would like summaries discussion on IRC regarding that so we can develop an idea out of that if it really helps.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So idea is to have more callee saved registers at infrequently called leaf procedures and try provide more registers to procedures which are in upper region of the call graph. But as pointed out by Quentin this optimization may help in context of "true" IPRA but in our case we may not require this. But I think that it can improve performance in current IPRA. I explain both arguments ( Quentin's and mine) with following example. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Consider following call sequence A->B->C , here C is very less time called leaf procedure while A is called frequently and B may call C based on some condition now while propagating actual register usage information from C to A we almost clobbered most of the registers so in this case as per Quentin's point we does not hurt the performance as we fall back to CC but I think we can improve the performance as follows:</div><div class="">If we mark every register preserved by C (i.e having more spill reloads at procedure entry and exit ) and if this can help at A. Suppose A requires more number of distinct registers than CC can provide and if not provided it will spill variables to memory. Now if we can provide more registers at A by having more spills at C then we can save spill at A which can be beneficial because A is frequently called but C is less frequently called and thus reducing total number of spill/restore in program execution.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However again effect of this optimization will be limited by the scope of current IPRA (i.e one Module only) because we can' really propagate the details about more callee saved registers to caller which is defined in other module, but still it may helpful.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Any thoughts on this ?</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">I think it is interesting, have you considered:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- the code size impact? (C will have a lot of spills) </div></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Yes, this needs to be address with some heuristics based on call frequency to C and no of clobbers it has. Also can we say that a function which does not have any kind of call instruction in it's body will have less clobbers ?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I am not sure what you mean.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">- what if C is cold but all (most) of its call sites are located in different modules?</div></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Can we user Uses to get no of call site in current module and based on that we decide to optimize? Again some heuristics . </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Of course, but what I’m mentioning is exactly what does not work with that.</div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><div class="">- an alternative approach where we would break the CGSCC ordering to codegen B and A before C, so we would be able to spill minimally when performing the codegen for C?</div></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Do you here mean marking all preserve for C while code gen for B and then when we come to C (top-down) we may avoid some spills if C can use regs which are not really used by B?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Yes, but it may be harder to implement for not much gain after all.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="">Also this can be applied to a function which is less frequently called and which may not be a leaf function. It may help. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Sure, you can just refer to this as “PGO driven IPRA”.</div><div><br class=""></div>— </div><div>Mehdi</div><div><br class=""></div></body></html>