<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">+1 to everything Lang said.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The CoC rocks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">-Quentin<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 5, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Lang Hames via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" class="">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To Tanya, Chandler, Philip, and everyone else who worked on this: Thank you! I really like the revised version of the CoC. The extra emphasis on continuity with existing standards answers the minor concerns I had with the original version, and I think you did a great job at capturing the spirit of the community.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Renato, Joachim, and others who are concerned: For what it's worth I lean libertarian on these things, and my gut instinct is to distrust attempts to codify what is and isn't reasonable behaviour. As you say - any codification has the potential to be subverted for mischief. That said, given the emphasis the new document places on maintaining our existing culture I don't think it will encourage any mischief in practice, and it might encourage people to join the community who would otherwise have been wary of doing so. That seems like a big net win.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Lang.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Chandler Carruth via llvm-dev <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank" class="">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM Robinson, Paul via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank" class="">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">> -----Original Message-----<br class="">
> From: llvm-dev [mailto:<a href="mailto:llvm-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank" class="">llvm-dev-bounces@lists.llvm.org</a>] On Behalf Of Chris<br class="">
> Lattner via llvm-dev<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""> </div></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> While I have no way to compel you to believe me, I really really do want<span class=""><br class="">
> the LLVM community to be vibrant and awesome, and it makes me sad that you<br class="">
> apparently assume otherwise.<br class="">
><br class="">
> -Chris<br class="">
<br class="">
I don't read it as "nefariously harm" so much as ex-nihilo asserting<br class="">
a Foundation exists and has some kind of control over the community<br class="">
(e.g., insisting on a CoC).</span></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I want to be super clear, the foundation is not insisting on anything, nor can it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">**I** am making this proposal as an active and long time contributor to LLVM. Many other members of the community have also expressed support for this on this and previous threads. <span style="line-height:1.5" class="">But our support is given as individual members of the community and it should be valued as such.</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I also want to say very clearly that for me, having a code of conduct that satisfies certain basic criteria isn't just incredibly important for me, personally. It is absolutely **essential**. I personally need this. Perhaps I'm wrong for needing it, and you or others may not understand or agree or even care. I don't expect any of that. But since I think it helps for folks to be explicit about the degree to which they care, I wanted to volunteer to be explicit.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Chandler</div></font></span></div></div>
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