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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/29/2016 01:59 PM, Pete Cooper via
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          <div class="">On Mar 28, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Pete Cooper via
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                  On Mar 28, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Chandler Carruth <<a
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="">FWIW, I agree with Mehdi that
                    we should just assert that our types don't get
                    called with size zero.</div>
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              Yeah, I agree.  I’ve tried running the tests with the
              assert in place and there’s about 1000 failures across
              llvm/clang.  I’ll see what I can fix as I would like to
              get these to behave.  There may be actual logic errors in
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        Well this is fun.  There is a long standing bug in the
        SelectionDAG tablegen matcher this has uncovered.  Seems that
        ComplexPattern’s don’t track MemRefs.  It probably (hopefully!)
        just causes downstream code to be conservative but its possible
        there’s real issues being hidden by this.</div>
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      <div>The problematic code is something like ‘xop(load) ->
        X86XOPrm’ where the resulting X86XOP MachineInstr wouldn’t have
        an MachineMemOperand’s, despite being marked as loading from
        memory.</div>
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      <div>Will file a PR so that we can track some of these issues.</div>
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    Coming late to this discussion since I just noticed this was talking
    about MemRefs...<br>
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    We have deep and horrible problems around our handling of
    MemoryOperands.  As it stands, there does not appear to be a single
    invariant which is documented and accepted throughout the various
    backends.  There are conflicting assumptions in various bits of
    code.  I tried to clean up some of this a while back and made some
    forward progress, but there's a lot of work left to do here.  <br>
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                    <div class="">That said, I don't think we can be
                      terribly cavalier with what we expect from
                      standard allocator types, operator new, or malloc.
                      And so I would expect
                      LLVM_ATTRIBUTE_RETURNS_NOALIAS to not imply
                      NONNULL, and while it seems reasonable to put
                      NONNULL on *our* allocate function because of the
                      assert and the fact that we assume the underlying
                      allocation routine never produces a null, it
                      doesn't seem reasonable for any old function with
                      NOALIAS to have NONNULL inferred.</div>
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              I agree.  I don’t actually know if NOALIAS and NONNULL
              were put on this function independently, or if the
              committer assumed one implied the other.  But I do agree
              that they should be independent in general, even if they
              happen to both apply here.</div>
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                    <div class="">-Chandler</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="">On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:18
                      PM Mehdi Amini via llvm-dev <<a
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                            <div class="">On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:39 PM,
                              Pete Cooper via llvm-dev <<a
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                                    On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:35 PM, David
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                                    wrote:</div>
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                                      0px;">On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:30
                                      PM, Pete Cooper<span class=""> </span><span
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                                        <div class="" style="word-wrap:
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                                          <div class="">(No idea if I
                                            have the correct audience. 
                                            Please CC more people as
                                            needed).</div>
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                                          <div class="">I have an UBSan
                                            failure in
                                            BumpPtrAllocatorImpl.Allocate.</div>
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                                          <div class="">The problem is
                                            that lld requests that we
                                            StringRef::copy an empty
                                            string.  This passes a
                                            length of 0 to a
                                            BumpPtrAllocator.  The
                                            BumpPtrAllocator happened to
                                            not have anything allocated
                                            yet so the CurPtr is
                                            nullptr, but given that we
                                            need 0 space we think we
                                            have enough space and return
                                            an allocation of size 0 at
                                            address nullptr.  This
                                            therefore returns nullptr
                                            from Allocate, but that
                                            method is marked
                                            with LLVM_ATTRIBUTE_RETURNS_NONNULL
                                            and LLVM_ATTRIBUTE_RETURNS_NOALIAS,
                                            both of which aren’t true in
                                            this case.</div>
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                                          <div class="">To put this in
                                            code, if I have</div>
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                                            <div class="">BumpPtrAllocator
                                              allocator;</div>
                                            <div class="">StringRef s;</div>
                                            <div class="">s.copy(allocator);</div>
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                                          <div class="">then i’m going
                                            to allocate 0 bytes in the
                                            allocator and get a
                                            StringRef(nullptr, 0).  Its
                                            a valid StringRef, but an
                                            UBSan failures in the
                                            allocator.</div>
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                                          <div class="">Lang and I
                                            looked up malloc behaviour
                                            online as this is fairly
                                            analogous.  The answer there
                                            is that you are allowed to
                                            return nullptr, or not, its
                                            implementation defined.  So
                                            no help there.</div>
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                                          <div class="">So the question
                                            is, how do we want this to
                                            behave in our code?</div>
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                                          <div class="">Some options:</div>
                                          <div class="">- Assert that
                                            Allocate never gets a size 0
                                            allocation.  So fix
                                            StringRef::copy to see this
                                            case</div>
                                          <div class="">- Remove the
                                            attributes from Allocate but
                                            continue to return nullptr
                                            (or base of the allocator?)
                                            in this case</div>
                                          <div class="">- Keep the
                                            attributes on Allocate and
                                            treat size 0 allocations as
                                            size 1</div>
                                        </div>
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                                      <div class="">I believe the last
                                        is closer to 'new's behavior -
                                        which I think returns a unique
                                        non-null address (well, unique
                                        amongst current allocations -
                                        can be recycled once deleted) if
                                        I recall correctly.<span
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                                That’s what I would have expected too. 
                                Its like sizeof(struct {}) which can be
                                a 1 depending on factors we don’t need
                                to get in to here.<br class="">
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                          <div class="">Well except that if
                            sizeof(struct{}) is 1, the allocator is
                            never called with a 0.</div>
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                          <div class="">I would consider forbidding zero
                            sized allocation in the allocator (assert())
                            by design (hey we're controlling every
                            possible uses!), unless there is a real
                            use-case for that.</div>
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                          <div class="">This would also be in line with
                            the C++ standard requirement for allocator
                            which specifies that the result of
                            "a.allocate(0)" is unspecified (ref: C++14
                            Table 28 — Allocator requirements).</div>
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                          <div class="">-- </div>
                          <div class="">Mehdi</div>
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                                        helpful/desired.</div>
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                                No need for my benefit :)  I’m in
                                agreement that this is a good behavior
                                to go for, but will leave it to others
                                to say if they’d like the extra detail.</div>
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                                did forget to say is that I’d like to
                                fix StringRef::copy in all of the above
                                cases.  I think that this method should
                                always avoid the allocator and return
                                StringRef(nullptr, 0) when length is 0. 
                                I’ll get a patch up on llvm-commits if
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