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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/19/16 6:26 AM, Bruce Hoult via
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<div dir="ltr">I work for one of those "top companies", but LLVM
is only one of the back-ends I'm working with so I have only
pretty narrow knowledge of it (but ok knowledge of compilers in
general, I hope).
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<div>I'm trying to post easy to understand answers to those
beginner questions when I have time (there was one yesterday,
about constant evaluating things like sqrt() in the front
end).</div>
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<div>One concern I have is that although these basic questions
often have no answers on the mailing list, any number of
people might well have replied to them privately, in an effort
to both be helpful to the questioner, and also to "maintain
the signal to noise ratio" of the mailing list.</div>
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When I reply to a question, I reply to the list. That ensures that
a) everyone knows if a question has been answered and b) it allows
others with a similar question to see the answer.<br>
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On a side note, I think our FAQ may need some updating; we've gotten
similar questions over the years which I should have added to a FAQ
but (to date) have not.<br>
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John Criswell<br>
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<div>Of course I don't know if this is really happening or not,
but if it is then the wasted duplication of effort is probably
worse than a few extra messages on the list. Which is why I
copy the list as well.</div>
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<div>The "office hours" idea would definitely help with all
this, if beginners can in fact be encouraged to use it.</div>
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<div>I'd probably use it myself, as I'm a novice to many aspects
of LLVM.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:47 PM, vivek
pandya via llvm-dev <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div class="gmail_extra">Note : I do not mean to compare
or criticize any organization. This is based on my
experience.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Dear Community,</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I have subscribed llvm-dev list
for last 6 months and I follow most of the thread when
it makes sense to me. I have observed that some times
some mails do not get any kind of response. Mostly
novice students and some one trying to use LLVM in the
research have many questions. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I respect all community members
and I understand that working for top companies or
colleges keep them very busy. So when I go on IRC same
things happens ( I keep my self up late night to sync
with timezone so I get many people to ask on IRC).</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> Personally if I stretch my self
and read some older mail chains, I am able to get
answers to my questions 80% of time, but some time I
just get stuck and some times to understand output and
"why it has happen so" a novice may require help from
you people.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I have just one suggestion that
is not particular to GSoC but it applies in general.
Actually Drupal.org uses this idea. See this <a
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target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.drupal.org/core-office-hours">https://www.drupal.org/core-office-hours</a></a></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Every Monday and Wednesday they
keep a session on IRC (just textual chat) dedicated to
novice student may be an hour long or so. To keep main
channel undisturbed we may have a separate channel. (or
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://slack.com"
target="_blank">slack.com</a> ) The time chosen for
both days are very different so that they can cover may
time zones. 2 or 3 experienced community members attends
this session and answers to the each kind of questions
from participant. This will help students and
researchers very much. Specially if they are not able to
progress by their own. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I have been benefited from this
on Drupal. LLVM is more complex code base than Drupal.
And I believe that your 60 minutes may save their days.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Sincerely,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Vivek </div>
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