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    Ah - I do commit to the test-suite from time to time.<br>
    So, could the github-based project be set up so that we can just do
    'git push'? Or would we have to go through the pull requests route
    on every commit?<br>
    I'm afraid I've never committed to any github project before, so I
    am a bit confused on how committing would work in practice.<br>
    Obviously, I hope for the mechanism to commit to be simple - e.g.
    just do a git push from the command line.<br>
    <br>
    Before making the decision to move the repo, I think this part also
    should be sorted out.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/2016 09:50, Chandler Carruth
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Yes, I would hope that for most this boils down to
        cloning a different URL. Except for folks pushing patches to the
        test suite, I'm moderately confident there would be no other
        difference.
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        <div>It's the pushing patches side that would need to be sorted
          out in more detail.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:48 AM Kristof Beyls
          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:kristof.beyls@arm.com">kristof.beyls@arm.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> My biggest concerns and
            care-abouts are largely what Matthias expressed below.<br>
            Most of them have been addressed already further down the
            thread.<br>
            <br>
            I hope that the move to github in practice would mean that
            the only difference is that I 'git clone <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github"
              target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github">https://github</a></a>...' instead of 'git
            clone <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://llvm.org/git/test-suite.git" target="_blank">http://llvm.org/git/test-suite.git</a>'
            ?<br>
            <br>
            Thanks,<br>
            <br>
            Kristof</div>
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            <div>On 24/02/2016 22:25, Matthias Braun via llvm-dev wrote:<br>
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              <div>I don't really care where the repository is located,
                but I do have some comments on the future test-suite
                directions:</div>
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                  <div>On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Chandler Carruth
                    via llvm-dev <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org"
                      target="_blank">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>>
                    wrote:</div>
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                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">Subject kinda says it all. Here is my
                      rationale:
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>The test-suite is really weird relative to
                        the rest of the LLVM project:</div>
                      <div>1) It contains all manner of crazily licensed
                        code.<br>
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                <div>That's indeed a good reason to move the repository
                  away.</div>
                <div><br>
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                      <div>2) We don't really care about the history at
                        all. Any concerns around linear history or
                        bisection are pretty much irrelevant.</div>
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                <div>We do care about the history. Sometimes benchmarks
                  get fixed or tweaked which may change the results, we
                  should be able to dig into the history to see what
                  happened when. In any way retaining the history
                  wouldn't be a problem, would it?</div>
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                      <div>3) We don't ever plan to have LLVM code move
                        into or out from the test-suite</div>
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                <div>I could actually see moving llvm code into the
                  test-suite (we already use lit code from llvm) but
                  indeed move code out of the testsuite into llvm I
                  don't foresee happening.</div>
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                      <div>4) Its already big, and really should be much
                        bigger. We shouldn't have incentives to keep
                        stuff out of the test suite because of size,
                        hosting cost, or anything else.</div>
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                <div>I agree with the goal of having a big test-suite.
                  However I think there is a point where we should
                  rather strive to have a stable base system for
                  building and running tests, etc. and then have the
                  actual benchmarks/tests being modules on top of that.
                  We already have that situation today with
                  External/SPEC* and I think it would be a good idea to
                  have a mode where you just checkout more benchmarks
                  into a test-suite subdirectory and they are
                  automatically recognized and used (in fact that is
                  something on my TODO list though at a very low
                  position).</div>
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                <div>- Matthias</div>
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                      <div>For all of these reasons, and also because
                        I'd like to see how well (or rather, how poorly)
                        a service like GitHub actually works for the
                        project, it seems like splitting the test-suite
                        out of the current subversion repository and
                        moving it there is the right call.</div>
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                      <div>When I chatted with folks on the board, this
                        made sense to them as well, and I've made sure
                        we have a reasonable LLVM organization set up on
                        GitHub and all the board members are on it: <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://github.com/llvm" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/llvm">https://github.com/llvm</a></a>
                        (I think only my membership is public at the
                        moment).</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>There is still plenty to figure out about how
                        to manage this on github, but before doing
                        anything else I just wanted to shoot an email
                        and see if folks like this idea.</div>
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                      <div>Thanks!</div>
                      <div>-Chandler</div>
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