<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Chandler Carruth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chandlerc@gmail.com" target="_blank">chandlerc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:18 AM Rui Ueyama via llvm-dev <<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Arseny Kapoulkine via llvm-dev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org" target="_blank">llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In the process of migrating from old lld ELF linker to new (previously ELF2) I noticed the interface lost several important features (ordered by importance for my use case):<div><br></div><div><div>1. Detecting errors in the first place. New linker seems to call exit(1) for any error.</div></div><div><br></div><div>2. Reporting messages to non-stderr outputs. Previously all link functions had a raw_ostream argument so it was possible to delay the error output, aggregate it for multiple linked files, output via a different format, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>3. Linking multiple outputs in parallel (useful for test drivers) in a single process. Not really an interface issue but there are at least two global pointers (Config & Driver) that refer to stack variables and are used in various places in the code.</div><div><br></div><div>All of this seems to indicate a departure from the linker being useable as a library. To maintain the previous behavior you'd have to use a linker binary & popen.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this a conscious design decision or a temporary limitation?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>That the new ELF and COFF linkers are designed as commands instead of libraries is very much an intended design change.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I disagree.</div><div><br></div><div>During the discussion, there was a *specific* discussion of both the new COFF port and ELF port continuing to be libraries with a common command line driver.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There was a discussion that we would keep the same entry point for the old and the new, but I don't remember if I promised that we were going to organize the new linker as a library. The new one is designed as a command from day one. (Precisely speaking, the original code propagates errors all the way up to the entry point, so you can call it and expect it to always return. Rafael introduced error() function later and we now depends on that function does not return.)</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>If you want to consider changing that, we should have a fresh (and broad) discussion, but it goes pretty firmly against the design of the entire LLVM project. I also don't really understand why it would be beneficial.</div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I'm not against organizing it as a library as long as it does not make things too complicated, and I guess reorganizing the existing code as a library is relatively easy because it's still pretty small, but I don't really want to focus on that until it becomes usable as an alternative to GNU ld or gold. I want to focus on the linker features themselves at this moment. Once it's complete, it becomes more clear how to organize it.</div></div>