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Vassilev <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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09/03/15 21:52, Anna Zaks wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">+Easily, some of the code snippets
end up being copied dozens of</div>
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<div class="">The project description stresses
code maintainability and logical design more
than bug finding due to omissions in copy and
pasted code. Reading this made me think of a
check that would suggest people to replace
copy and pasted code with a function call or
something like that... Examples do stress the
specific bugs that could be found, which is
what I had in mind:</div>
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<div class="">+ Copy-paste infrastructure
could be used to build other "goodies".
Some</div>
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applications are:</div>
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<div class="">Is this intentional? If not, maybe
we could rephrase a bit with more emphasis on
bug finding. I would also make it a
requirement to use the infrastructure for bug
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partially yes, I wanted to have the project
description as broad as possible so that
interested students to specialized in a
direction, in which they are most comfortable.
Because IMO the project is bigger than 1 usual
GSoC project.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br
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rephrased it to make it more focused towards
bugs. Could you elaborate on the "I would also
make it a requirement to use the infrastructure
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<div class="">I would prefer not to have pure
infrastructure, but rather develop infrastructure
along with uses of it. Bug finding is one such use.
That would allow to set clear goals for the students
and allow for better qualification of the
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I see your point and I agree. I really want the proposal
up soon. Can we discuss that in IRC, I think it would be
easier for me? My nickname is vvassilev. <br class="">
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I am not going to be online in the next couple of hours. I would
just rewrite this a bit to make it clear that we expect some
useful features being developed along with the copy and paste
detection with bug finding as an example. Writing those features
would be part of the project.
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<div class="">If a student is interested in a feature other than
bug finding, I’d expect them to specify what that is when they
apply. (As far as I recall, the students also write proposals.
I am not sure what is the workflow when they reply to our
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Maybe Anton knows better. AFAIK the organization proposals give the
idea of what can be done, later the students and the mentors make a
proposal and based on that a slot for the student is allocated and a
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<div class="">I think the proposal is generally good. I’d just
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Thanks, see the 3rd version attached.<br>
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<div class="">(However, I see your point about making
it open to students that are interested in using
this infrastructure for other projects.)</div>
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please feel free to submit a patch to the patch
(:)), if you think something else requires
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<div class="">Thanks for driving this!</div>
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thank you for reviewing!</span><br
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<div class="">On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:54 AM,
Vassil Vassilev <<a
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the people who might be interested to
review)</span><br class=""
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04/03/15 23:00, Anton Korobeynikov
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Vassil
Vassilev <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Yes, I'm taking care about
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I saw the the LLVM mentoring org was
accepted. Congrats!<br class="">
Anton, could you tell me what is the
procedure of submitting a proposal for<br
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a project (I will be the mentor)?<br
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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, 5:14 PM John
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All,<br class="">
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Has someone registered LLVM as
an organization for Google
Summer of Code<br class="">
2015? I'm interested in
mentoring a GSoC student this
summer.<br class="">
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-- John T.<br class="">
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--<br class="">
John Criswell<br class="">
Assistant Professor<br class="">
Department of Computer Science,
University of Rochester<br
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none; display: inline !important;">Q:
Why is this email five sentences or
less?</span><br class=""
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text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">http://five.sentenc.es</a><br
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font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
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normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto;
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auto; text-align: start; text-indent:
0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">
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