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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">> For DWARF EH and SjLj, the backend is responsible for handling most of the EH work. It seems like it would be a more consistent design for SEH to do the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Looking beyond SEH to C++ exception handling for a moment, it seems to me that clang may be handling more than it should there. For instance, calls like “__cxa_allocate_exception”
and “__cxa_throw_exception” are baked into the clang IR output, which seems to assume that the backend is going to be using libc++abi for its implementation. Yet it has enough awareness that this won’t always be true that it coughs up an ErrorUnsupported
failure for “isWindowsMSVCEnvironment” targets when asked to emit code for “try” or “throw”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Should this be generalized with intrinsics?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Also, I’m starting to dig into the outlining implementation and there are some things there that worry me. I haven’t compared any existing code that might
be doing similar things, so maybe these issues will become clear as I get further into it, but it seemed worth bringing it up now to smooth the progress. I’m trying to put together a general algorithm that starts at the landing pad instruction and groups
the subsequent instructions as cleanup code or parts of catch handlers. This is easy enough to do as a human reading the code, but the way that I’m doing so seems to rely fairly heavily on the names of symbols and labels.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For instance, following the landingpad instruction I expect to find an extract and store of “exn.slot” and “ehselector.slot” then everything between that and
wherever the catch dispatch begins must be (I think) cleanup code. The catch handlers I’m identifying as a sequence that starts with a load of “exn.slot” and a call to __cxa_begin_catch and continues until it reaches a call to __cxa_end_catch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The calls to begin/end catch are pretty convenient bookends, but identifying the catch dispatch code and pairing catch handlers with the clauses they represent
seems to depend on recognizing the pattern of loading the ehselector, getting a typeid then comparing and branching. I suppose that will work, but it feels a bit brittle. Then there’s the cleanup code, which I’m not yet convinced has a consistent location
relative to the catch dispatching and I fear may be moved around by various optimizations before the outlining and will potentially be partially shared with cleanup for other landing pads.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then there’s the matter of what all of this will look like with SEH, but I haven’t given that much thought yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For now I’ll just happily push ahead in the hopes that this will all either resolve itself or turn out not to be much of a problem, but it seemed worth talking
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Bob Wilson [mailto:bob.wilson@apple.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Reid Kleckner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kaylor, Andrew; LLVM Developers Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [LLVMdev] RFC: How to represent SEH (__try / __except) in LLVM IR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 18, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Reid Kleckner <<a href="mailto:rnk@google.com">rnk@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Bob Wilson <<a href="mailto:bob.wilson@apple.com" target="_blank">bob.wilson@apple.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t know much about SEH and haven’t had time to really dig into this, but the idea of outlining functions that need to know about the frame layout sounds a bit scary. Is it really necessary?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m wondering if you can treat the cleanups and filter functions as portions of the same function, instead of outlining them to separate functions. Can you arrange to set up the base pointer on entry to one of those segments of code to
have the same value as when running the normal part of the function? If so, from the code-gen point of view, doesn’t it just behave as if there is a large dynamic alloca on the stack at that point (because the stack pointer is not where it was when the function
was previously running)? Are there other constraints that prevent that from working?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The "big dynamic alloca" approach does work, at least conceptually. It's more or less what MSVC does. They emit the normal code, then the epilogue, then a special prologue that resets ebp/rbp, and then continue with normal emission. Any
local variables declared in the __except block are allocated in the parent frame and are accessed via ebp. Any calls create new stack adjustments to new allocate argument memory.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This approach sounds far scarier to me, personally, and will significantly complicate a part of LLVM that is already poorly understood and hard to hack on. I think adding a pair of intrinsics that can't be inlined will be far less disruptive
for the rest of LLVM. This is actually already the status quo for SjLj exceptions, which introduce a number of uninlinable intrinsic calls (although maybe SjLj is a bad precedent :).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The way I see it, it's just a question of how much frame layout information you want to teach CodeGen to save. If we add the set_capture_block / get_capture_block intrinsics, then we only need to save the frame offset of *one* alloca. This
is easy, we can throw it into a side table on MachineModuleInfo. If we don't go this way, we need to save just the right amount of CodeGen state to get stack offsets in some other function.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is the only part that concerns me. Who keeps track of the layout of the data inside that capture block? How do you know what local variables need to be in the capture block? If the front-end needs to decide that, is that something
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<p class="MsoNormal">The capture block would be a boring old LLVM struct with a type created during CodeGenPrepare.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm imagining a pass similar to SjLjEHPrepare that:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Demote all non-alloca SSA values to allocas (DemoteRegToMem, like sjlj)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Combine all allocas used in landing pad bbs into a single LLVM alloca with a new combined struct type<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Outline code from landing pads into cleanup handlers, filters, catch handlers, etc<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- In the parent function entry block, call @llvm.eh.seh.set_capture_block on the combined alloca<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Finally, RAUW all alloca references with GEPs into the capture block<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The downside is that this approach probably hurts register allocation and stack coloring, but I think it's a reasonable tradeoff.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for prompting me on this, it helps to write things down like this. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">No problem. Now that I see the details of what you have in mind, I can’t think of any reason why that wouldn’t work, and I like the way it isolates most of the impact of SEH into one new pass. Also, if the performance impact turns out to
be worse than expected, I don’t see anything here that would prevent moving to the “big dynamic alloca” approach later.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For DWARF EH and SjLj, the backend is responsible for handling most of the EH work. It seems like it would be a more consistent design for SEH to do the same.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yep. I guess the question is, is CodeGenPrep the backend or not? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, CGP is definitely backend. I thought you were going to say that the front-end needed to decide what goes in the capture block.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Having a single combined MachineFunction also means that MI passes will have to learn more about SEH. For example, we need to preserve the ordering of basic blocks so that we don't end up with discontiguous regions of code.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, you would probably need to do that. It doesn’t seem like that would be fundamentally difficult, but I haven’t thought through the details and I can imagine that it would take a fair bit of work.<o:p></o:p></p>
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