<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This thread hasn’t had too much traffic, but it sounds like many people are in favor and there is no strong opposition. If I understand Aaron’s only objection was based on preserving existing policy rather than a technical reason.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Anyone want to make the official call?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Chris</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Reid Kleckner <<a href="mailto:rnk@google.com" class="">rnk@google.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">+1 for 2013. The feature set is worth it.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I expect that there will still be major incompatibilities around initializer lists, so I would avoid them unless you have MSVC or are OK with diagnosing the problem from a buildbot.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Renato Golin <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:renato.golin@linaro.org" target="_blank" class="">renato.golin@linaro.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I just broke a build by committing initializer list and a few other<br class="">
C++11 stuff on the LoopVectorizer... :/<br class="">
<br class="">
cheers,<br class="">
--renato<br class="">
<br class="">
PS: The lld Windows bot is 2011, so that surely needs upgrading anyway...<br class="">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br class="">
On 19 August 2014 00:48, David Blaikie <<a href="mailto:dblaikie@gmail.com" class="">dblaikie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> For my money: variadic templates and some bug I hit when trying to use<br class="">
> forward_as_tuple.<br class="">
><br class="">
> On Aug 18, 2014 4:02 PM, "Aaron Ballman" <<a href="mailto:aaron@aaronballman.com" class="">aaron@aaronballman.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Chris Bieneman <<a href="mailto:beanz@apple.com" class="">beanz@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
>> > I’d like to propose raising the minimum required compiler for the LLVM &<br class="">
>> > Clang trunks for Visual Studio to MSVC 2013.<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > Doing this will allow us to take advantage of a bunch of C++11 features<br class="">
>> > that are not supported by MSVC 2012. According to MSDN<br class="">
>> > (<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh567368.aspx" target="_blank" class="">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh567368.aspx</a>) the list is:<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > * Non-static data member initializers<br class="">
>> > * Variadic templates<br class="">
>> > * Initializer lists<br class="">
>> > * Default template arguments for function templates<br class="">
>> > * Expression SFINAE<br class="">
>> > * Alias templates<br class="">
>> > * Delegating constructors<br class="">
>> > * Explicit conversion operators<br class="">
>> > * Raw string literals<br class="">
>> > * Defaulted and deleted functions<br class="">
>> ><br class="">
>> > Questions, comments, concerns, general feedback?<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> We shifted the minimum MSVC version to 2012 in January of this year,<br class="">
>> and have run into only a few issues where C++11 features exist in MSVC<br class="">
>> 2013 but not MSVC 2012. So I'm wondering what problem this solves in<br class="">
>> practice for our code base?<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> Personally, I use MSVC 2013 instead of 2012. But I would hesitate to<br class="">
>> switch to 2013 as the minimum supported version just yet. It's been<br class="">
>> out for less than two years and until "14" drops, it is the newest<br class="">
>> version of the compiler. When we made the switch, the goal was to<br class="">
>> support only the last two versions of MSVC, and I don't see any strong<br class="">
>> evidence to support expediting that schedule. I think this is a great<br class="">
>> plan for when "14" is officially released.<br class="">
>><br class="">
>> ~Aaron<br class="">
>><br class="">
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