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Either you're being disingenuous are truly looking to confuse a
situation only someone ignorant of what LLVM could ever misconstrue.<br>
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Why would Apple dump hundreds of millions in R&D with
Clang/LLVM, create Swift and introduce it to everyone and the press
for WWDC 2014, followed up by posting on the LLVM list only to be
moving away from LLVM?<br>
<br>
More importantly, who appointed you e-mail monitor on what is or is
not appropriate dialogues to have for a project that clearly several
corporate members have an enormous stake in building, especially
Apple?<br>
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- Marc<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/11/2014 08:03 AM, Chandler
Carruth wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:59 PM, John
Criswell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:criswell@illinois.edu" target="_blank">criswell@illinois.edu</a>></span>
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<div>Dear All,<br>
<br>
Historically, we *have* permitted job announcements for
jobs that require or desire expertise with LLVM or one
of it's sub-projects. To the best of my knowledge,
we've never required that the position announcement
state that the job will contribute directly to the LLVM
project (or its sub-projects) or that the code created
by the position be open source.<br>
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As an example, please see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2014-May/072938.html"
target="_blank">http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2014-May/072938.html</a>
and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-August/033695.html"
target="_blank">http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-August/033695.html</a>.<br>
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Using this criteria, I believe that Ted's post is
on-topic (although I agree that it should have stated
the connection with LLVM more prominently).</div>
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The connection or relevance of LLVM experience really isn't
clear... "<span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Familiarity
with LLVM or Clang a plus, but not required." makes it seem
like it is not terribly relevant, which was the source of my
concern.</span></div>
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