<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, John Criswell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:criswell@illinois.edu" target="_blank">criswell@illinois.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div>On 6/12/14, 11:03 AM, Chandler Carruth
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 4:45 PM,
Hanbing Li <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hanbing.li@inria.fr" target="_blank">hanbing.li@inria.fr</a>></span>
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<div>Hi,</div>
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<div>I know when a pass needs other passes, it will use
something like this:
"AU.addRequired<LoopInfo>();". But this is usually
used for the analysis passes.</div>
<div>When a pass needs another transform pass, can it call
it automatically?</div>
<div>For example:</div>
<div>Some loop optimizations may need loop-simplify, I
need add -loop-simplify before calling these passes
manually, or they can call the pass -loop-simplify
automatically?</div>
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Currently, the pass manager allows you (somewhat) to use the
addRequired mechanism even with analyses. However, I strongly
encourage you to not leverage it as it will eventually go
away.</div>
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Just out of curiosity, why is this feature going away?</blockquote></div><br>Because it makes understanding the actual pass sequence horribly complex.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
With analyses, things are simple. Whatever order you run the analyses in doesn't matter because they don't mutate anything. Each analysis can depend on other analyses and you either have a cycle (fast to detect and error on) or you have a DAG and there is a natural walk that produces the set of desired analyses.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Now consider when these passes are *transformations*. Now, the relative order in which you run them can dramatically change the results in unpredictable ways. There is no way for multiple "required" transformation passes to be ordered cleanly without a tremendous amount of machinery. All this is what led to LoopSimplify being run 4x as many times as was necessary for a long time. =/</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Instead, everyone I've discussed this with (there have bene several email threads about this) prefers that there is a single place (the builder) which spells out the exact sequence of transforms applied.</div>
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