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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear All,<br>
<br>
Historically, we *have* permitted job announcements for jobs that
require or desire expertise with LLVM or one of it's
sub-projects. To the best of my knowledge, we've never required
that the position announcement state that the job will contribute
directly to the LLVM project (or its sub-projects) or that the
code created by the position be open source.<br>
<br>
As an example, please see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2014-May/072938.html">http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2014-May/072938.html</a>
and
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-August/033695.html">http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2010-August/033695.html</a>.<br>
<br>
Using this criteria, I believe that Ted's post is on-topic
(although I agree that it should have stated the connection with
LLVM more prominently).<br>
<br>
If there is now an official policy that I've overlooked stating
otherwise, please let me know.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
John Criswell<br>
<br>
<br>
On 6/11/14, 8:39 AM, Chandler Carruth wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Ted
Kremenek <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kremenek@apple.com" target="_blank">kremenek@apple.com</a>></span>
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<div class="">On Jun 10, 2014, at 5:36 PM, C. Bergström
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cbergstrom@pathscale.com">cbergstrom@pathscale.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> On 06/11/14 06:58 AM, Ted <span class="il">Kremenek</span>
wrote:<br>
>> ** NOTE: This is a compiler job announcement.
**<br>
>><br>
>> The Apple Source Languages team is looking for
exceptional engineers to work on the Swift programming
language:<br>
> Maybe this has been asked already and I missed it -
Will Swift be open source?<br>
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At this time, we honestly don't know the answer yet to
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Ted, we've routinely pushed back strongly against job postings
for compiler jobs that aren't specifically working on LLVM,
Clang, or some other part of the LLVM project.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">If Swift ends up open source, and if it
ends up as part of the LLVM project (neither of which seem
clear as you say), only then would it seem appropriate to send
this kind of job ad email to these lists.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">This is the second off-topic job
posting in the last few weeks, so I'm particularly sensitive.
I really don't want the lists to become cluttered here.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">-Chandler</div>
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