<p dir="ltr">Right. Like Chandler is saying, these intrinsics are only used under fno-math-errno and are already properly modeled as not modifying errno. </p>
<p dir="ltr">The change being proposed only affects the dynamic change of hardware fp rounding modes, which is not currently supported by llvm (#pragma STDC FENV_ACCESS ON). We currently appear to be at the worst of both worlds as we do not have support for this environment but are always being constrained by it. </p>
<div class="gmail_quot<blockquote class=" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Philip Reames <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:listmail@philipreames.com" target="_blank">listmail@philipreames.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>On 1/24/14 3:52 PM, Raul Silvera wrote:<br>
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include/llvm/IR/Intrinsics.td there is code to mark sqrt and
several other math intrinsics as "ReadOnly", even though they
do not read memory.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">According to the
comments this was done as an attempt to model changes to the
FP rounding mode. This is too conservative, and unnecessarily
blocks transformations such as commoning and vectorization.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have heard from
others that FP environment changes are not well modeled on
LLVM anyway, so perhaps it is appropriate to just change these
from ReadOnly to ReadNone. Any opinions on this? If there are
no objections I'll prepare a patch.</div>
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While our current modeling isn't quite right (e.g. we don't model
writes to errno and related state), I'm very reluctant to see us
move in the direction you propose. I'm leary of having intrinsics
which are modeled incorrectly and relying on the optimizers not to
exploit that fact and yield incorrect code. This seems like a
recipe for disaster long term.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>errno is a totally separate issue. I started to confuse these when talking with Raul, and sorry for that.</div><div><br></div><div>The intrinsics should (IMO) be modeled as *not* fiddling with errno at all. That is already the case today, and we don't transform library calls into intrinsic calls unless compiling under '-fno-math-errno' to explicitly say this is allowed.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The interesting question is whether the floating point intrinsics "read" the hardware rounding mode. I would very much like to say "no" because LLVM has essentially no support for modeling hardware rounding modes in any other context. For example, we don't model it for multiply and divide, so modeling it for sqrt seems pointless and in impedes a huge number of optimizations.</div>
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