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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>| </span>PS: As a side note, I would personally really like to revisit my proposal to write down what we mean for each optimization level as precisely as we can (acknowledging that this is not very precise; it will always be a judgement call). I think it would help<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>|</span>these discussions stay on track.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think that would be good; I had the points in the previous email discussion you initiated in mind in interpreting O2 vs O3. The one big thing that I think isn't borne in mind quite enough is that we need to not only have a fairly clear idea of what ought to be at each level, but when assigning things we need to run "tests" (even throwaway, informatl ones) to verify that actual real-world behaviour does match the intuition. For example, I don't think the "intent" of gcc's levels is actually that different from what you proposed; the issue is that the behaviour of the actual flags assigned don't result in behaviour that matches the intent. (I still never cease to be amazed when I write a simple "pseudo-benchmark" to generate some numbers to calibrate a performance issue, run them on an actual machine and the actual performance is reversed from what I'd expect.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>