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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Just a stab here and not basing it upon
any recent exposure as a Mechanical Engineer and CS graduate with
FORTRAN 90/03 but I have always perceived DragonEgg as
transitional bridge solution and not an end solution for languages
LLVM/Clang presently or in the future have yet to support directly
within their infrastructure.<br>
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Personally, the sooner I don't have to have the GCC infrastructure
to run FreeBSD, Debian Linux or any other platform the better.
It's not a dig at GCC, it's a dig at bloat. Having a robust
FORTRAN library that is always a must in Numerical Analysis
preludes often an equivalent robustness in equivalent C/C++
libraries, though never at an exact level of precision.<br>
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Not to mention I would suspect the likes of ANSYS, MatLab,
Mathematica, etc., would be rather pleased to port their
applications across OS X, Windows, UNIX [Linux/FreeBSD] knowing
LLVM/Clang/Flang isn't entangled with GPL licensing issues.<br>
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- Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Marc J. Driftmeyer<br>
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On 04/12/2013 07:53 AM, Justin Holewinski wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I always liked the sound of 'flang' :)
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<div style="">I'm curious, what benefits would we see from a
"native" Fortran compiler for LLVM versus DragonEgg, assuming
we'd still need the gfortran standard library anyway (in the
short-medium term)? Or put another way, is there Fortran code
out there we optimize poorly *because* of using DragonEgg? I
haven't used DragonEgg much, so if this is obvious I
apologize.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Anton
Korobeynikov <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div class="im">> Indeed, dragonegg supports Fortran, but
through a gfortran bridge. The<br>
> really interesting part in Fortran is in fact arrays!<br>
><br>
> Anyway, it's just my opinion, I'm a simple user ;)<br>
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Fortran has its own standard library and it's damn big.
Also, the<br>
Fortran grammar is not the simplest (or, rather -
straightforward<br>
one). So this certainly looks too big for GSoC.<br>
<br>
Though, it might be a good start for someone.<br>
<br>
I believe Bill (CCed) started something few years ago. So,
maybe he<br>
can share his thoughts on this project.<br>
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--<br>
With best regards, Anton Korobeynikov<br>
Faculty of Mathematics and Mechanics, Saint Petersburg State
University<br>
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