[llvm-dev] Resuming the discussion of establishing an LLVM code of conduct

Jonathan Roelofs via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Fri May 6 11:03:22 PDT 2016

On 5/6/16 11:43 AM, Philip Reames via llvm-dev wrote:
> On 05/06/2016 09:02 AM, Rafael EspĂ­ndola via llvm-dev wrote:
>>>> Say what you want about the Linux kernel community, but you can't
>>>> call
>>>> it immature. You can call the behaviour of some of its people
>>>> immature, but the community itself is not by a long shot.
>>> But there are reasonable people who will not interact with that
>>> community because they find that community's acceptance of offensive
>>> behavior unacceptable. I certainly don't want to see that happen here.
>> That cuts both ways. I have in the past posted in my facebook account
>> articles from the onion that some people would consider offensive. If
>> you don't like it, don't read the onion or be friends with me on
>> facebook.
>> I have been working on llvm since 2006 and according to the code of
>> conduct I would now be liable to being banned from working on llvm
>> because of sharing a satirical news.
> I think it's fair to say everyone involved in this discussion would find
> that a ridiculous conclusion.  I personally am not too worried by the
> current wording, but are there particular changes which would set your
> mind at ease?  Several folks have raised concerns about the section
> which reads "In addition, violations of this code outside these spaces
> may affect a person's ability to participate within them."  Is that the
> one that gives you pause?   Or is there more? Pointing to specific
> pieces of wording would be really helpful here.
> FYI, several folks have expressed specific concern about that particular
> wording.  If we can find wording which rephrases that to address the
> concern while retaining the intent, that seems like an obvious thing to
> fix.

What /is/ the intent of that particular phrase?


>> Again, I don't doubt the good intentions of the people working on
>> this, but as written this is one of the most terrifying documents I
>> have seen.
>> Cheers,
>> Rafael
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