[llvm-dev] We really need more community involvement with GSoC

[vivek pandya via llvm-dev]

@James
I am not sure in IRC if we can retrieve back the older messages. So
consider Slack as suggestion only.

*Vivek Pandya*


On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:29 PM, James Molloy <james at jamesmolloy.co.uk>
wrote:

> Hmm. But we already use IRC, we don't already use Slack (as a community).
>
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 at 10:57, vivek pandya <vivekvpandya at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to insist more to use slack.com due to persistent storage
>> of message it can be useful to create 'Minutes of Meeting' kind of thing
>> and later on shared on mailing list so that all community can be aware of
>> that, when some serious discussion has happened during 'office hours'.
>>
>> *Vivek Pandya*
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 1:53 AM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1000 to all of this fwiw.
>>>
>>> I'm happy to chat with some folks and send out a concrete proposal?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 9:07 PM James Molloy via llvm-dev <
>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the idea of dedicated "newbie hour - no question is too basic"
>>>> drop in sessions is fantastic. +1 for that.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 at 11:26 Bruce Hoult via llvm-dev <
>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I work for one of those "top companies", but LLVM is only one of the
>>>>> back-ends I'm working with so I have only pretty narrow knowledge of it
>>>>> (but ok knowledge of compilers in general, I hope).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to post easy to understand answers to those beginner
>>>>> questions when I have time (there was one yesterday, about constant
>>>>> evaluating things like sqrt() in the front end).
>>>>>
>>>>> One concern I have is that although these basic questions often have
>>>>> no answers on the mailing list, any number of people might well have
>>>>> replied to them privately, in an effort to both be helpful to the
>>>>> questioner, and also to "maintain the signal to noise ratio" of the mailing
>>>>> list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I don't know if this is really happening or not, but if it
>>>>> is then the wasted duplication of effort is probably worse than a few extra
>>>>> messages on the list. Which is why I copy the list as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> The "office hours" idea would definitely help with all this, if
>>>>> beginners can in fact be encouraged to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd probably use it myself, as I'm a novice to many aspects of LLVM.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:47 PM, vivek pandya via llvm-dev <
>>>>> llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Note : I do not mean to compare or criticize any organization. This
>>>>>> is based on my experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have subscribed llvm-dev list for last 6 months and I follow most
>>>>>> of the thread when it makes sense to me. I have observed that some times
>>>>>> some mails do not get any kind of response. Mostly novice students and some
>>>>>> one trying to use LLVM in the research have many questions.
>>>>>> I respect all community members and I understand that working for top
>>>>>> companies or colleges keep them very busy. So when I go on IRC same things
>>>>>> happens ( I keep my self up late night to sync with timezone so I get many
>>>>>> people to ask on IRC).
>>>>>>  Personally if I stretch my self and read some older mail chains, I
>>>>>> am able to get answers to my questions 80% of time, but some time I just
>>>>>> get stuck and some times to understand output and "why it has happen so" a
>>>>>> novice may require help from you people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just one suggestion that is not particular to GSoC but it
>>>>>> applies in general. Actually Drupal.org uses this idea. See this
>>>>>> https://www.drupal.org/core-office-hours
>>>>>> Every Monday and Wednesday they keep a session on IRC  (just textual
>>>>>> chat) dedicated to novice student may be an hour long or so. To keep main
>>>>>> channel undisturbed we may have a separate channel. (or slack.com )
>>>>>>  The time chosen for both days are very different so that they can cover
>>>>>> may time zones. 2 or 3 experienced community members attends this session
>>>>>> and answers to the each kind of questions from participant. This will help
>>>>>> students and researchers very much. Specially if they are not able to
>>>>>> progress by their own.
>>>>>> I have been benefited from this on Drupal. LLVM is more complex code
>>>>>> base than Drupal. And I believe that your 60 minutes may save their days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Vivek
>>>>>>
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