[llvm-dev] RFC: Second draft of an LLVM Community Code of Conduct

Joachim Durchholz via llvm-dev llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org
Tue Oct 20 05:32:37 PDT 2015

Am 20.10.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Renato Golin via llvm-dev:
> It's possible that Americans (and I mean North, Centre and South) are
> more likely to be rude religiously than Europeans or Asians, due to
> severe lack of exposure to non-Christian religions.

Just for the record:
Actually in Mid and South America, non-Christian religions are making a 
comeback, up to and including representatives of shamanic belief systems 
inaugurating a president.
I.e. I think your analysis may be slightly off the mark here.

Some more general remarks:

I do agree that any concrete bullet list of harrassing actions is 
culturally biased, and I do agree that that might cause problems in the 
long term.

I'm not 100% sure that this is going to be serious though. No 
dictatorship ever worked as long as people could vote with their feet, 
and if it comes to the worst and the LLVM committee starts making 
"strange decisions", there will be an organizational fork and likely a 
code fork as well. Over time, one of the forks will die, or they will 
get merged amicably - either way nothing really bad happened, except 
maybe to those who engaged in direct confrontation.
The knowledge that this can happen will in itself cause the committee to 
restrain any dictatorial ambitions, further reducing the issue a bit.

Well, that's the typical event sequences. There is the occasional 
exception, mostly revolving around situations where the original project 
isn't that easy to leave or fork after all. So I won't deny that there 
could be a problem, and it would be nice to get that improved.
OTOH any alternate proposals would need to be evaluated as well, and I 
have seen situations where the cure was as bad as the illness. I'm 
willing to accept that some things simply can't be regulated via rules 
and bylaws, and the best and most well-meaning organisations can 
deteriorate. It's just what can (and ultimately will) happen, not the 
End of the World as we Know it, so... relax :-)


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