[LLVMdev] GlobalsModRef (and thus LTO) is completely broken

Michael Zolotukhin mzolotukhin at apple.com
Tue Jul 21 15:43:37 PDT 2015


> On Jul 21, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Daniel Berlin <dberlin at dberlin.org> wrote:
> 
> Based on function names and structures, this is some version of GCC :)
Yep, it’s 403.gcc from SPEC2006 (I thought I mentioned it - but probably I only did that on IRC).

> Any way you can post the entire .ll file?
It’s an LTO build, so it’d be troublesome.. I tried to print the module in lldb, but after a several minutes it hasn’t even finished printing globals (which I assume is the very beginning).

> 
> Because it's globalsmodref, it's hard to debug without the other
> functions, since it goes over all the functions to determine address
> takenness, etc :)
Yep, I understand that - I’m still in debugger though, so if you’re interested in some particular data, I can try collecting it. I can try to dump the module too, but it might be not-practical in the end:)

Michael
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Michael Zolotukhin
> <mzolotukhin at apple.com> wrote:
>> Hi Chandler,
>> 
>> We observed some regressions in our regular testing (despite I saw nothing
>> suspicious in my runs). I did accurate investigation and was able to
>> reproduce and track down the regression.
>> I found the exact request to GlobalsModRef that results in the performance
>> loss (I added a limit on number of requests into the implementation and
>> bisected the number to find the interesting request).
>> 
>> Here are the details:
>> 
>> We’re checking following two locations:
>> 
>> (lldb) p ((llvm::Instruction*)(LocA.Ptr))->dump()
>>  %arrayidx.i = getelementptr inbounds [1 x %struct.elt_list*], [1 x
>> %struct.elt_list*]* %te.i, i64 0, i64 %indvars.iv.i
>> (lldb) p ((llvm::Instruction*)(LocB.Ptr))->dump()
>> @reg_values = internal unnamed_addr global %struct.varray_head_tag* null,
>> align 8
>> 
>> and the function in question is “cselib_init”:
>> (lldb) p
>> ((llvm::Instruction*)(LocA.Ptr))->getParent()->getParent()->getName()
>> (llvm::StringRef) $3 = (Data = "cselib_init", Length = 11)
>> 
>> Corresponding underlying values:
>> (lldb) p UV2->dump()
>> @reg_values = internal unnamed_addr global %struct.varray_head_tag* null,
>> align 8
>> (lldb) p UV1->dump()
>> %32 = load %struct.varray_head_tag*, %struct.varray_head_tag** @reg_values,
>> align 8, !tbaa !2
>> 
>> Backtrace:
>> (lldb) bt
>> * thread #1: tid = 0x120baaf, 0x00000001038b752a libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GlobalsModRef::alias(this=0x000000010eba5c10,
>> LocA=0x00007fff5fbf4198, LocB=0x00007fff5fbf6268) + 570 at
>> GlobalsModRef.cpp:519, queue = 'com.apple.main-thread', stop reason = step
>> over
>>  * frame #0: 0x00000001038b752a libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GlobalsModRef::alias(this=0x000000010eba5c10,
>> LocA=0x00007fff5fbf4198, LocB=0x00007fff5fbf6268) + 570 at
>> GlobalsModRef.cpp:519
>>    frame #1: 0x00000001038b82f7 libLTO.dylib`non-virtual thunk to
>> (anonymous namespace)::GlobalsModRef::alias(this=0x000000010eba5c30,
>> LocA=0x00007fff5fbf4198, LocB=0x00007fff5fbf6268) + 55 at
>> GlobalsModRef.cpp:562
>>    frame #2: 0x00000001038d6aa8
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::AliasAnalysis::getModRefInfo(this=0x000000010eba5c30,
>> S=0x000000010a1a22e0, Loc=0x00007fff5fbf6268) + 120 at AliasAnalysis.cpp:288
>>    frame #3: 0x0000000103a0a814
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::MemoryDependenceAnalysis::getPointerDependencyFrom(this=0x000000010e6cf0c0,
>> MemLoc=0x00007fff5fbf6268, isLoad=true, ScanIt=llvm::BasicBlock::iterator at
>> 0x00007fff5fbf4390, BB=0x000000010a19ffa0, QueryInst=0x000000010a1a20c8) +
>> 1908 at MemoryDependenceAnalysis.cpp:570
>>    frame #4: 0x0000000103a0ffa5
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::MemoryDependenceAnalysis::GetNonLocalInfoForBlock(this=0x000000010e6cf0c0,
>> QueryInst=0x000000010a1a20c8, Loc=0x00007fff5fbf6268, isLoad=true,
>> BB=0x000000010a19ffa0, Cache=0x0000000100f9d568, NumSortedEntries=0) + 2165
>> at MemoryDependenceAnalysis.cpp:965
>>    frame #5: 0x0000000103a0e3a9
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::MemoryDependenceAnalysis::getNonLocalPointerDepFromBB(this=0x000000010e6cf0c0,
>> QueryInst=0x000000010a1a20c8, Pointer=0x00007fff5fbf62a8,
>> Loc=0x00007fff5fbf6268, isLoad=true, StartBB=0x000000010a19ffa0,
>> Result=0x00007fff5fbf6bf0, Visited=0x00007fff5fbf6208, SkipFirstBlock=false)
>> + 5897 at MemoryDependenceAnalysis.cpp:1200
>>    frame #6: 0x0000000103a0cb3b
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::MemoryDependenceAnalysis::getNonLocalPointerDependency(this=0x000000010e6cf0c0,
>> QueryInst=0x000000010a1a20c8, Result=0x00007fff5fbf6bf0) + 635 at
>> MemoryDependenceAnalysis.cpp:911
>>    frame #7: 0x000000010340c5b5 libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GVN::processNonLocalLoad(this=0x000000010e6ce680,
>> LI=0x000000010a1a20c8) + 101 at GVN.cpp:1706
>>    frame #8: 0x0000000103408eef libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GVN::processLoad(this=0x000000010e6ce680, L=0x000000010a1a20c8)
>> + 1551 at GVN.cpp:1905
>>    frame #9: 0x00000001034080fd libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GVN::processInstruction(this=0x000000010e6ce680,
>> I=0x000000010a1a20c8) + 397 at GVN.cpp:2220
>>    frame #10: 0x0000000103407d1b libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GVN::processBlock(this=0x000000010e6ce680,
>> BB=0x000000010a19ffa0) + 251 at GVN.cpp:2394
>>    frame #11: 0x0000000103401755 libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GVN::iterateOnFunction(this=0x000000010e6ce680,
>> F=0x00000001085f69f8) + 1541 at GVN.cpp:2677
>>    frame #12: 0x0000000103400fef libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::GVN::runOnFunction(this=0x000000010e6ce680,
>> F=0x00000001085f69f8) + 623 at GVN.cpp:2352
>>    frame #13: 0x00000001027cd05b
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::FPPassManager::runOnFunction(this=0x000000010eba6810,
>> F=0x00000001085f69f8) + 427 at LegacyPassManager.cpp:1520
>>    frame #14: 0x00000001027cd375
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::FPPassManager::runOnModule(this=0x000000010eba6810,
>> M=0x000000010115c5f0) + 117 at LegacyPassManager.cpp:1540
>>    frame #15: 0x00000001027cdda1 libLTO.dylib`(anonymous
>> namespace)::MPPassManager::runOnModule(this=0x000000010e6cbaf0,
>> M=0x000000010115c5f0) + 1409 at LegacyPassManager.cpp:1596
>>    frame #16: 0x00000001027cd636
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::legacy::PassManagerImpl::run(this=0x000000010e6cb740,
>> M=0x000000010115c5f0) + 310 at LegacyPassManager.cpp:1698
>>    frame #17: 0x00000001027ce521
>> libLTO.dylib`llvm::legacy::PassManager::run(this=0x00007fff5fbf82b8,
>> M=0x000000010115c5f0) + 33 at LegacyPassManager.cpp:1729
>> 
>> 
>> The function body is in the attached file.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> GlobalsModRef reports NoAlias for this pair, here:
>>  if (GV1 || GV2) {
>>    // If the global's address is taken, pretend we don't know it's a
>> pointer to
>>    // the global.
>>    if (GV1 && !NonAddressTakenGlobals.count(GV1))
>>      GV1 = nullptr;
>>    if (GV2 && !NonAddressTakenGlobals.count(GV2))
>>      GV2 = nullptr;
>> 
>>    // If the two pointers are derived from two different non-addr-taken
>>    // globals, or if one is and the other isn't, we know these can't alias.
>>    if ((GV1 || GV2) && GV1 != GV2)
>>      return NoAlias;
>> 
>>    // Otherwise if they are both derived from the same addr-taken global,
>> we
>>    // can't know the two accesses don't overlap.
>>  }
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>> 
>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 9:13 AM Evgeny Astigeevich
>> <evgeny.astigeevich at arm.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s Dhrystone.
>> 
>> Dhrystone has historically not been a good indicator of real-world
>> performance fluctuations, especially at this small of a shift.
>> 
>> I'd like to see if we see any fluctuation on larger and more realistic
>> application benchmarks. One advantage of the flag being set is that we
>> should get runs from folks who have automatic builds and runs periodically
>> from trunk. Those should help give an accurate picture.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Chandler Carruth [mailto:chandlerc at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 17 July 2015 16:10
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: Evgeny Astigeevich; Chandler Carruth
>>> Cc: LLVM Developers Mailing List
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] GlobalsModRef (and thus LTO) is completely broken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you say what Benchmark or give a test case so we understand the nature
>>> of the regression? As Gerolf said, that will be important to understand what
>>> is best to do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 06:43 Evgeny Astigeevich
>>> <Evgeny.Astigeevich at arm.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the regression is stable. I double checked this. A full benchmark run
>>> consists of at least 10 sub-runs to validate the score.
>>> 
>>> I also checked if there were regressions of this benchmark across
>>> different ARM hardware versions. I found all regressions of this benchmark
>>> were in range 1.6%-2%.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Evgeny Astigeevich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Chandler Carruth [mailto:chandlerc at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 17 July 2015 07:52
>>> To: Evgeny Astigeevich; Chandler Carruth
>>> Cc: LLVM Developers Mailing List; Michael Zolotukhin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] GlobalsModRef (and thus LTO) is completely broken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey, thanks for benchmarking.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How stable is the 2% regression?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael ran some benchmarks with GlobalsModRef completely disabled and the
>>> only differences were in the noise. This was a complete spec2k6 run along
>>> with some others. Based on the number of benchmarks run there, I'm going to
>>> go ahead and submit these patches, but if you can clarify the impact here,
>>> we can look at potentially some other tradeoff. I'm not particularly set on
>>> one set of defaults, etc, I just don't want to keep patches held up based on
>>> that. We can flip the default back and forth as new data arrives.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:23 PM Evgeny Astigeevich
>>> <evgeny.astigeevich at arm.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chandler,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I ran couple benchmarks with LTO turned on and your patches on ARM
>>> hardware.
>>> 
>>> There were no performance degradation of one benchmark and 2% slowdown of
>>> another benchmark.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Evgeny Astigeevich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: llvmdev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu [mailto:llvmdev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu] On
>>> Behalf Of Evgeny Astigeevich
>>> Sent: 15 July 2015 15:12
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: 'Chandler Carruth'; Gerolf Hoflehner
>>> Cc: LLVM Developers Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] GlobalsModRef (and thus LTO) is completely broken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Chandler,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like to run some benchmarks on ARM hardware and to look at impact
>>> of your patches on LTO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Evgeny Astigeevich
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: llvmdev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu [mailto:llvmdev-bounces at cs.uiuc.edu] On
>>> Behalf Of Chandler Carruth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent: 15 July 2015 10:45
>>> To: Chandler Carruth; Gerolf Hoflehner
>>> Cc: LLVM Developers Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [LLVMdev] GlobalsModRef (and thus LTO) is completely broken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've fixed the obvious bugs I spotted in r242281. These should be pure
>>> correctness improvements.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've sent the two patches I'm imagining to address the core issue here:
>>> 
>>> http://reviews.llvm.org/D11213
>>> 
>>> http://reviews.llvm.org/D11214
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Currently, I have the unsafe alias results disabled by default, but with a
>>> flag that can re-enable them if needed. I don't feel really strongly about
>>> which way the default is set -- but that may be because I don't have lots of
>>> users relying on LTO. I'll let others indicate which way they would be most
>>> comfortable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Some IRC conversations indicated that early benchmark results with GMR
>>> completely disabled weren't showing really significant swings, so maybe this
>>> relatively small reduction in power of GMR won't be too problematic for
>>> folks. Either way, I'm open to the different approaches. It's D11214 that I
>>> care a lot about. =]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the thoughts here!
>>> 
>>> -Chandler
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:25 PM Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Replying here, but several of the questions raised boil down to "couldn't
>>> you make the usage of GetUnderlyingObject conservatively correct?". I'll try
>>> and address that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think this *is* the right approach, but I think it is very hard to do
>>> without effectively disabling this part of GlobalsModRef. That is, the easy
>>> ways are likely to fire very frequently IMO.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The core idea is to detect a "no information" state coming out of
>>> GetUnderlyingObject (likely be providing a custom version just for
>>> GlobalsModRef and tailored to its use cases). This is particularly effective
>>> at avoiding the problems with the recursion limit. But let's look at what
>>> cases we *wouldn't* return that. Here are the cases I see when I thought
>>> about this last night with Hal, roughly in descending likelihood I would
>>> guess:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1) We detect some global or an alloca. In that case, even BasicAA would be
>>> sufficient to provide no-alias. GMR shouldn't be relevant.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2) We detect a phi, select, or inttoptr, and stop there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3) We detect a load and stop there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 4) We detect a return from a function.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 5) We detect an argument to the function.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I strongly suspect the vast majority of queries hit #1. That's why BasicAA
>>> is *so* effective. Both #4 and #5 I think are actually reasonable places for
>>> GMR to potentially say "no-alias" and provide useful definitive information.
>>> But I also suspect these are the least common.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So let's look at #2 and #3 because I think they're interesting. For these,
>>> I think it is extremely hard to return "no-alias". It seems extremely easy
>>> for a reasonable and innocuous change to the IR to introduce a phi or a
>>> select into one side of the GetUnderlyingObject but not the other. If that
>>> ever happens, we can't return "no-alias" for #2, or we need to add really
>>> expensive updates. It also seems reasonable (if not as likely) to want
>>> adding a store and load to the IR to not trigger a miscompile. If it is
>>> possible for a valid optimization pass to do reg2mem on an SSA value, then
>>> that could happen to only one side of the paired GetUnderlyingObject and
>>> break GMR with #3. If that seems like an unreasonable thing to do, consider
>>> loop re-rolling or other transformations which may need to take things in
>>> SSA form at move them out of SSA form. Even if we then try immediately to
>>> put it back *into* SSA form, before we do that we create a point where GMR
>>> cannot correctly return no-alias.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So ultimately, I don't think we want to rely on GMR returning "no-alias"
>>> for either #2 or #3 because of the challenge of actually updating it in all
>>> of the circumstances that could break them. That means that *only* #4 and #5
>>> are going to return "no-alias" usefully. And even then, function inlining
>>> and function outlining both break #4 and #5, so you have to preclude those
>>> transforms while GMR is active. And I have serious doubts about these
>>> providing enough value to be worth the cost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think the better way to approach this is the other way around. Rather
>>> than doing a backwards analysis to see if one location reaches and global
>>> and the other location doesn't reach a global, I think it would be much more
>>> effective to re-cast this as a forward analysis that determines all the
>>> memory locations in a function that come from outside the function, and use
>>> that to drive the no-alias responses.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:12 PM Gerolf Hoflehner <ghoflehner at apple.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t be willing to give up performance for hypothetical issues.
>>> Please protect all your changes with options. For some of your concerns it
>>> is probably hard to provide a test case that shows an/the actual issue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I certainly agree that it will be very hard to provide a test case and
>>> extremely rare to see this in the wild for most of these issues. As long as
>>> I can remove the problematic update API we currently have (which as its an
>>> API change can't really be put behind flags), I'm happy to have flags
>>> control whether or not GMR uses the unsound / stale information to try to
>>> answer alias queries. Do you have any opinion about what the default value
>>> of the flags should be?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'll go ahead and prepare the patches, as it seems like we're all ending
>>> up in the same position, and just wondering about the precise tradeoffs we
>>> want to settle on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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