[LLVMdev] Proposal for new Legalization framework

Evan Cheng evan.cheng at apple.com
Sat Apr 27 11:28:49 PDT 2013


On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Dan Gohman <dan433584 at gmail.com> wrote:
> To all, I'm moving on and accepting what appears to be the consensus of the list, for now.
> 
> I want to point out something about this direction that hasn't really come up, but I think deserves some better discussion. I don't think it should be the basis of a decision one way or the other, its more a consequence of the decision.
> 
> At the IR level, we have some great infrastructure that doesn't exist at the MI level:
> 
> - The pass management tools.
> - A verifier that can be run before and after any pass to check the basic invariants.
> - The ability to serialize and deserialize to/from a human understandable (and authorable) form.
> 
> I think before we invest in *significantly* more complexity and logic in the MI layer of the optimizer, we will need it to have these three things. Without them, the work will be considerably harder, and we will continue to be unable to do fine grained testing during the development of new features. We might not need all of the capabilities we have in the IR, but I think we'll need at least those used to orchestrate fine grained testing and validation.

MI does have a verifier which can be extended if anything is lacking. I'm not seeing how improving MI passes is critical for the an instruction selector. But perhaps I am missing some important details.

I agree having the ability to serialize and deserialize the IR is an important missing feature for MI. We had an intern working on this before but it wasn't successful. My vague plan is this area involves instruction selecting directly to a "generic" (and configurable) target. But it's by no means a concrete proposal.

Evan

> 
> Of course, adding these to MI would be of great benefit to any number of other aspects of LLVM's development. I am *not* arguing we should eschew MI because it lacks these things. I just want people to understand that part of the cost of deciding that MI is the right layer for this is needing to invest in these pieces of the MI layer.
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