[LLVMdev] llvm-? new mailing list?

[Mikael Lyngvig]

I'd love to add my two pennies:

As a user of LLVM (someone who prefers to look at LLVM as a black box with
handles on it, which can be used to make it do stuff), I think it is a
great idea to create a dedicated user's mailing list.  There may not be a
whole lot of users now, but down the road, as LLVM matures on Windows and
people begin to open their eyes to the existence of LLVM, I bet lots and
lots of wannabe language designers and embedded developers and you name it
are going to ask all the "silly" questions that some of us have already
summoned up enough courage to ask on the LLVMdev list.

The dev list is great, but most of it is completely irrelevant to me as an
end-user.  On the other hand, if there was such a thing as an LLVMuser
list, timid people like me perhaps dared ask some of all the questions that
I have - that I do not want to bother the dev list with.  Perhaps, just
perhaps, I might one day be able to help out other LLVM newbies as I am
myself gradually progressing through the rather painful development from
"complete LLVM noob" to "advanced LLVM user" (the latter lies years in the
future, I think).

Personally, I'd love to see the LLVM developers group become used to the
whole notion of LLVM as a black box component that 3rd party people might
want to use WITHOUT smearing their hands and faces in the guttards of LLVM.


I have chosen to use LLVM for my project because I neither have the time
nor the skills to repeat the brilliant work that the LLVM developers group
has already done.  But my interest in code generation and optimizations can
rest safely tucked away in a corner of a quarter.

So, I say, go for it!


Cheers,
Mikael
-- Love Thy Frog!
2012/6/5 Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com>

> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Tanya Lattner <lattner at apple.com> wrote:
>
>> LLVMers,
>>
>> Traffic on llvm-dev is quite high and while the majority of it is LLVM
>> development related, there are many other mails related to clients or other
>> projects.
>>
>> Having an llvm-users doesn't make any sense, but perhaps having a
>> llvm-clients or llvm-general mailing list may help offload some of the
>> traffic.
>>
>> What do people think? Any other suggestions to divide up the traffic and
>> reach the right people?
>
>
> My minor view:
>
> I suspect that llvm-users doesn't make a lot of sense because there just
> aren't that many "pure" users of LLVM -- using LLVM involves some
> reasonable about of hacking. Not sure about the value of a mailing list
> other than 'llvmdev', although perhaps we should all work to reduce the
> noise level on llvmdev.
>
>
> I *do* think that projects which have much more direct user-facing aspects
> to them should have a user-facing mailing list. Clang seems the obvious
> example here, and I would expect 'clang-users' to be a useful list to
> maintain. (cfe-users may be consistent, but it's awful hard on new comers
> to find and remember...)
>
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