[LLVMdev] Getting To Native Code

Misha Brukman brukman at uiuc.edu
Wed Nov 12 18:15:01 PST 2003


On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:05:20PM -0800, Reid Spencer wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 11:45, Vikram Adve wrote:
> > > This implies that it is not intended for end-user consumption but
> > > more for a proof-of-concept and ongoing research potential.
> > 
> > You're being too modest, Misha --- this is going to be the Linux of
> > the future :)
> 
> I'll add my pragmatist $0.02 worth here. Take it with a grain of salt.
> 
> If LLVA isn't "real world" or "intended for end-user", how valuable is 
> it as a research tool? 

Perhaps I should say what I really meant to say instead of vaguely
generalizing. :)

The thing that will exist at some point (hopefully soon) will be
essentially an emulator for LLVA. *THAT* is not intended for an
end-user, an end-user here being someone who is not a
compiler/architecture researcher or developer. This is because unlike
something such as VMware, it does NOT have off-the-shelf software it can
run, unless we make an effort to port it, or make LLVM able to compile
it.

THAT is what I meant. LLVA is a definitely for everyone, but as an
architecture implemented in hardware, not as an emulator.

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