[PATCH] D29512: [PGO] Directory name stripping in global identifier for static functions

Rong Xu via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Mon Feb 6 09:54:03 PST 2017


When I wrote IRPGO for PGOFuncName, I intentionally chose to use the source
path with directory name. This is different from the Clang PGO where the
base name is used. I believe I mentioned this in the comment or commit
message. This is to avoid the name clashing like this.

So the change in D22028 was a regression.

Surely, this will not solve all the name clashing: if the user could have
used the same source name string (with directory) in the build. In this
case, there still could be name clashing. But I don't think it is common. I
haven't encountered one in the real applications. On the other hand, using
the base name only breaks many of out applications.  In addition, no matter
how complicate the scheme is, like Hash, there is still a chance for the
naming clash (unless, of course, using global module ID in thin-lto or
lto).

I still think using a path name is a good choice.

Second, I don't think D22028's use case is common. The typical use case for
FDO is to have the same command line options and just replacing
-fprofile-generate with -fprofile-use. D22028 has different source string,
I believe the user has a better position to deal with this than the
compiler.

-Rong





On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Xinliang David Li <davidxl at google.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Sean Silva <chisophugis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Xinliang David Li <davidxl at google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Sean Silva via Phabricator <
>>> reviews at reviews.llvm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> silvas added a comment.
>>>>
>>>> This change does two things (as you mention in the description):
>>>>
>>>> 1. Adding -static-func-strip-dirname-prefix which provides a way to
>>>> have more control when `-static-func-full-module-prefix=true` is
>>>> specified.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is actually a more general form of -static-func-full-mdoule-prefix.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Changing the default of -static-func-full-module-prefix to true.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, -static-func-full-module-prefix defaults to false because it
>>>> caused issues when set to true (in fact, it was introduced to avoid these
>>>> issues). The default value of -static-func-strip-dirname-prefix
>>>> introduced in this patch (i.e. 0) is effectively a no-op; so ignore 1. for
>>>> now. This means that the net effect of this patch is that compilation will,
>>>> by default, have a regression on the issue fixed by r275193 /
>>>> http://reviews.llvm.org/D22028, which is not a good idea. I think that
>>>> the default behavior (which is user-visible) should not be changed in this
>>>> patch.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disagree. The original default behavior was to preserve the full path
>>> which was also user visible :)
>>>
>>
>> And yet we found a compelling-enough use case to change it.
>>
>
> It was probably better to introduce the option but not flipping the
> default the first time. The stripping-path-fully mode had not been widely
> tested at that time.
>
> I am a little curious about the use case for D22028. The pgo name of
> static function is only affected by source module path. Why would that be
> different for pgo-gen/use builds? In most common setup I saw, the source
> paths should remain the same.
>
>
>> We may need to revisit that decision, but clearly the current default is
>> intentional and part of changing away from that is explaining why we no
>> longer care about that use case (or care about it less than some other
>> thing).
>>
>
> We care about all use cases, which is why the more general form of option
> is introduced -- it makes sure the use case in D22028 can also be handled
> but more safely (stripping all prefix will bound to cause problems).
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The whole rationale for changing the current default is that it is
>>> generally not safe -- mainly problem #1 because of counter variables for
>>> static functions can not guaranteed to be unique when full path is stripped.
>>>
>>
>> Can the counter variables be static to match the static nature of the
>> functions they describe? (there would still be collisions when indexing the
>> profile data though; the function CFG hash could be included in the "name"
>> to avoid this)
>>
>
> For simple functions, cfg hash collision is also very likely, so the first
> line of defense is always the name key.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> The ThinLTO issue is secondary (probably irrelevant here because of
>>> other bugs).
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> The issue addressed in D22028 is actually not common -- the source
>>> module paths should generally match in profile-gen and profile-use phases,
>>> so using internal option for that use case seems more reasonable to me.
>>>
>>
>> This is subjective, but I think it is quite reasonable to assume that
>> each build will use a different output directory. Hence any build that
>> generates .cpp files into the output directory (which seems reasonable too)
>> is susceptible.
>>
>
> so the case is for generated source files? Should they be accessed with
> relative paths?
>
>
>>
>> Overall, requiring a user to use a compiler-internal option for something
>> that seems to happen in practice (e.g. back when I was a PlayStation we
>> actually ran into it and spent time fixing it) is a pretty poor experience.
>> I think we should aim to do better (though we might settle for less if that
>> proves challenging).
>>
>
> I agree in general. However I think it is reasonable for a user to use an
> internal option for corner use cases.  Another choice is to introduce an
> external option for this which user can rely on.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Overall, it sounds like this approach of relying on users to tweak
>>>> internal compiler options (-mllvm) to get correct behavior in their
>>>> environment is not the kind of user experience we want to deliver (or the
>>>> kind of implementation that we want to maintain). IIRC, when we added
>>>> -static-func-full-module-prefix, it was with the understanding that it
>>>> was a simple hack for working around the larger issue of relying on the
>>>> module name which we knew was not very robust. The further addition of the
>>>> "InLTO" complicates things even further. It seems like a code smell that we
>>>> do not have a Single Point Of Truth.
>>>>
>>>> I proposed a solution at one point https://groups.google.com/d/ms
>>>> g/llvm-dev/s_VZbFTWbVs/d0b4Zh80CgAJ though it may no longer be
>>>> applicable. It seems like ThinLTO already has to solve a problem of finding
>>>> unique identifiers for all functions (even static), so we may want to
>>>> piggy-back on that mechanism (this is just a high-level thought; haven't
>>>> looked into the details).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> For LTO/ThinLTO,  we solved the issue by using meta data which uses
>>> getPGOFuncName as singe source of truth.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> So:
>>>>
>>>> - I specifically object to changing user-visible defaults in this
>>>> patch. Those changes should be isolated, and I don't think we have
>>>> justification to change those defaults anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> See my reply about the safety issue of keeping the current default.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> - I'm slightly opposed to adding the -static-func-strip-dirname-prefix
>>>> flag, since it seems like a workaround (among others that have already
>>>> piled up) for a more fundamental issue. This is a frog-in-boiling-water
>>>> situation; if solving the fundamental issue would be a huge amount of work,
>>>> then adding the new flag is probably fine for now, but we need to keep in
>>>> mind the larger situation. IIUC, defaulting `-static-func-strip-dirname-prefix=-1`
>>>> would emulate the current default behavior, so
>>>> -static-func-full-module-prefix could just be removed in the same
>>>> patch.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The current -static-func-full-module-path=false is simply a special
>>> case of the new option. For users who rely on this option may hit the
>>> correctness issue, they won't have any fallback without the new option.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - I would encourage brainstorming/discussion of alternative solutions
>>>> that solve the fundamental problem (which seems to be more about having a
>>>> stable globally unique identifier than being specifically about
>>>> preserving/mangling the "name" per se).
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem itself is simple: handle name conflicts between
>>>
>>> /a/b/c/foo.c:static_func
>>> /e/f/g/foo.c:static_func
>>>
>>> Path info is a natural choice. Note that FE instrumentation also uses
>>> module path to uniquely identify static_func as well.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the problem was inherited from FE instrumentation. I remember that
>> when I explained to Justin the issue, he said that it was clearly buggy and
>> not intentional (an oversight when implementing FEPGO).
>>
>
> It works very well in practice -- though it is not guaranteed to be 100%
> free of conflict. I won't label it as buggy.
>
>
>>
>> It seems that the fundamental issue is coming up with a unique identifier
>> for the current TU that is stable across compiler invocations. How do other
>> compilers handle this?
>>
>> GCC does not suffer from the problem because it does not dump profile
> into one file but one profile file per module. The profile data file tree
> structure mirrors the build output file structure so there will be problem
> if profile-gen and use do not share the same structure. Runtime options are
> provided to strip prefixes from output directories. Compiler time option is
> also provided to relocate profile data (e.g. pointing to different root).
>
>
>
>> For example, path names are not enough. E.g. a user may build
>> /a/b/c/foo.c with two different sets of compiler options, yet static
>> functions of the same name must still be treated as separate. A file like:
>>
>> foo.c:
>>
>> static void PreprocessHelper(/* something */) {
>> #ifdef USE_AVX
>>   // something
>> #else
>>   // something else
>> #endif
>> }
>>
>> #ifdef USE_AVX
>> void foo_avx(/* something */) {
>> #else
>> void foo_noavx(/* something */) {
>> #endif
>>   PreprocessHelper(/* something */);
>>   // something
>> }
>>
>>
>> IIRC, one option (suggested by pcc if I remember correctly) is to use a
>> hash of the TU's exported symbols (or something like that) to uniquely
>> identify the TU.
>>
>
> Should be limited to user defined public symbols.
>
>
>> That seems more robust than a path name.
>>
>
> I believe so.
>
> Content based ID has its advantage but has disadvantages too. For instance
> more expensive to compute, less readable names. Using path based naming, we
> can immediately identify where the static function is defined. Perhaps we
> can use base name plus content hash.
>
> Teresa, Rong, do you see a situation when  module ID needs to be
> identified but it is difficult or  too expensive to access the module's
> content?
>
> David
>
>
>> -- Sean Silva
>>
>>
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://reviews.llvm.org/D29512
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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