[PATCH] D13741: Introduce a *draft* of a code of conduct for the LLVM community and theassociated reporting guide.

Mehdi AMINI via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Fri May 6 18:00:05 PDT 2016


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Please find a comment inline about a choice of word that makes me uncomfortable.

I take the opportunity to say that while I don't personally feel the need for it, because I haven't personally witnessed that the community has not been welcoming, the simple fact that some people don't feel comfortable without making this explicit through a CoC is enough for me to fully support the initiative. Outside of the exact wording, I trust the community to refer to the CoC with discernment.


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Comment at: docs/CodeOfConduct.rst:66
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+  * Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior.
+  * Repeated harassment of others. In general, if someone asks you to stop,
+    then stop.
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Can you remove the word "Repeated" please?
Harassment is by definition *repeated* as far as I know, unless it is a US vs non-US thing?
A quick google search tends to comfort me in my view that other CoC I looked at are twisting the word by removing this (important IMO) component:

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Harassment : "any form of **repeated** behaviour intended to intimidate a person or make them feel unwelcome or uncomfortable" and "**repeated** interactions with a person after they have made it clear that further interaction is unwelcome"
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/harassment  : the act of **systematic and/or continued** unwanted and annoying actions
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harass "to annoy or bother (someone) in a **constant or repeated** way" and  "to make *repeated* attacks against (an enemy)"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment  "It is commonly understood as behaviour which disturbs or upsets, and it is **characteristically repetitive**" and " Sexual harassment refers to **persistent** and unwanted sexual advances"

Not having this characteristic implies that a one-time behavior that offend someone is considered as harassment, which I disagree with.

May I suggest an edition along these lines:

```
**Be careful in the words that you choose and be kind to others.** Do not
  insult or put down other participants. Exclusionary behavior aren't 
  acceptable. This includes, but is not limited to:

  * Violent threats or language directed against another person.
  * Discriminatory jokes and language.
  * Posting sexually explicit or violent material.
  * Posting (or threatening to post) other people's personally identifying
    information ("doxing").
  * Personal insults, especially those using racist or sexist terms.
  * Unwelcome sexual attention.
  * Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior.

   In general, if someone asks you to stop, then stop. Persisting in such a 
   behavior after being asked to stop is considered harassment.
```



http://reviews.llvm.org/D13741





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