[PATCH] D13741: Introduce a *draft* of a code of conduct for the LLVM community and theassociated reporting guide.

David Blaikie via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Fri May 6 13:50:09 PDT 2016


On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Colin LeMahieu <colinl at codeaurora.org>
wrote:

> I think the primary interaction people see for this community is on the
> mailing list and IRC, I don’t foresee people seeking out a code of conduct
> document for making a determination if they like the community.
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Given situations that have arisen at other conferences, etc, this (looking
for a CoC or similar before engaging in a community, especially in any
meatspace community events) is a thing that people are actually doing.


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> It seems the document description of conduct will either be consistent
> with actual community interaction, making it redundant, or it will be
> inconsistent making it an incorrect representation of actual behavior.
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> Personally I’ve been a part of many internet connected communities and
> from what I’ve seen everyone around here is very well behaved, probably
> because we all have professional identities to maintain.  The toxic
> communities I’ve been a part of haven’t been deterred by a code of conduct
> and from what I’ve seen it turns in to a headache for whoever has the
> unfortunate job of making the judgement.
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> In my experience polite reminders about maintaining civility and how we’re
> all in this project together works the best.
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> *From:* David Blaikie [mailto:dblaikie at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2016 12:41 PM
> *To:* reviews+D13741+public+945d7c0c099172bf at reviews.llvm.org; Colin
> LeMahieu <colinl at codeaurora.org>
> *Cc:* Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at gmail.com>; Jim Grosbach <
> grosbach at apple.com>; Justin Bogner <mail at justinbogner.com>; Philip Reames
> <listmail at philipreames.com>; llvm-commits <llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PATCH] D13741: Introduce a *draft* of a code of conduct
> for the LLVM community and theassociated reporting guide.
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> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Colin LeMahieu via llvm-commits <
> llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org> wrote:
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> colinl added a subscriber: colinl.
> colinl added a comment.
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> I'm opposed to adopting this document.  I don't think it solves a
> particular problem and it seems likely to create many.
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> The specific problem it is trying to solve is to make it practical for a
> newcomer/outsider to the community to understand the kind of community they
> might be stepping into (& hopefully reassure them that it's one they will
> feel comfortable in - because that's already the kind of community we try
> to have).
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> In what way do you feel this document does not solve that problem?
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> What sort of thing do you think would be better at solving that problem?
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> http://reviews.llvm.org/D13741
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