[PATCH] D13741: Introduce a *draft* of a code of conduct for the LLVM community and theassociated reporting guide.

Chandler Carruth via llvm-commits llvm-commits at lists.llvm.org
Thu May 5 13:23:51 PDT 2016


On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 5:01 AM Rafael EspĂ­ndola <rafael.espindola at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am still opposed to this. I think think this fails to capture the
> desire to codify the current practices, not change them.


I have tried to incorporate your suggestion -- do you have any other
suggestions that would help here?

However:


> I am afraid
> that doing this will push us in the direction of
>
>
> https://github.com/apple/swift/commit/8bda440bb919b6b59ce24de8f077dc31211e3f5a
>
> And we will spend time cleansing ourselves from "dominators" and "cargo
> cult".
>

FWIW, I like that commit. I find the new terminology no less clear that the
previous set of terminology, and if anyone was made uncomfortable by the
previous terms it seems like a nice improvement.

I'm not personally afraid of us trying to find and use terms that are
clear, precise and effective without making others uncomfortable. I'm not
so attached to any particular terminology that I would actually care about
losing it. See Paul's insightful comment -- we've changed terminology like
this before and the world spins on. =]

So in that sense, we may just disagree about what the correct direction is
here. But I would still be interested in trying to strengthen the wording
to be codifying existing practice. Even without the code of conduct, I
would be happy with the above change happening in LLVM.
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