[llvm] r211705 - Random Number Generator (llvm)

Chris Lattner clattner at apple.com
Wed Jul 2 17:38:04 PDT 2014


On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Nick Lewycky <nlewycky at google.com> wrote:

> On 2 July 2014 11:52, Chandler Carruth <chandlerc at google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com> wrote:
> Any thoughts guys?  If we are unclear what the right design here is, I'd prefer you to revert the patch until it is figured out.
> 
> I'm moderately confident this isn't the right design...
> 
> Specifically, I totally get why the seed and salt data needed by an RNG might be in the module (preferably opaquely in module-level metadata or something), but I don't really understand why the RN*G* would be in the module rather than in the pass or thing which is generating the random data for some purpose.
> 
> Chandler and I just had a talk about this and formed some amount of consensus that I want to relay to the list.
> 
> The RNG should have a seed in the module that we can use to create the RNG as needed. For predictability we agreed on MT19937 which has a lot of good properties (well-balanced, doesn't have a warmup period, etc). Module-level metadata works well for storing the seed.
> 

> Stephen and Chris, does this work for both of you? Are the motivations behind this design clear?

Storing this as module-level metadata makes sense to me.

-Chris

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